Free Agency 2018: Inside Linebackers
February 27, 2018
by Steve Thomas
Welcome to part 3 of my continuing free agency preview series. Over the past two weeks, I covered wide receivers (read it here) and running backs (read it here), so it’s time to move over to the defensive side of the ball; hence, this week’s look at inside linebackers. The Redskins recently re-signed Mason Foster to a two year contract, so he’ll man one starting spot and likely be the green-dot helmet wearing play caller as well. The Redskins currently have veterans Martrell Spaight and Zach Vigil on the roster, plus 2017 rookie Josh Harvey-Clemons, 2017 holdovers Pete Robertson and Otha Peters, and 2018 futures contract signee Cassanova McKinzy. In other words, unless the team has faith in either Spaight or Vigil, the Redskins need another starting-quality linebacker to go along with Foster. The front office might try to acquire this as of yet unknown starter through the draft, but in case they have the thought to fill this need through free agency, these column will cover my opinions on who might be available.
For inside linebackers, I’m looking for, first, a player who isn’t on his last contractual legs, age-wise, fits the Redskins’ base 3-4 system, has a proven track record of performance in both run stopping and coverage skills, and an injury history that doesn’t indicate the Redskins should be worried about his availability. Without further ado, my rankings:
Top of the Heap
#1 – NaVorro Bowman, 6’0”, 242 lbs; 29 years old
Simply put, Bowman is a high-risk proposition due to injuries and age, but even taking those issues into account, has the clear and obvious best resume. Bowman is a 2009 Penn St. graduate, playing 33 games from 2007-09 after redshirting his freshman year in 2006[1]. During his college career, he made 2115 total tackles, including 117 solo and 98 assisted, with 8 sacks and 3 interceptions. He was a first team All-Big Ten selection in 2009, and was drafted in the 3rd round by the San Francisco 49ers.
Bowman’s career NFL statistics:
99 gms/84 starts; 585 tackles, 213 assisted tackles, 14 sacks
His year by year statistical breakdown:
2010 (SF): 16 gms/1 start; 38 tackles, 8 assisted tackles
2011 (SF): 16 gms/16 starts; 111 tackles, 32 assisted tackles, 2.0 sacks
2012 (SF): 16 gms/16 starts; 96 tackles, 52 assisted tackles, 2.0 sacks
2013 (SF): 16 gms/16 starts; 120 tackles, 25 assisted tackles, 5.0 sacks
2014 (SF): 0 gms – IR
2015 (SF): 16 gms/16 starts; 116 tackles, 38 assisted tackles, 2.5 sacks
2016 (SF): 4 gms/4 starts; 24 tackles, 11 assisted tackles, 1.0 sacks
2017 (SF/Oak): 15 gms/15 starts; 80 tackles, 47 assisted tackles, 1.5 sacks
Bowman was elected to the Pro Bowl in 2012, 2013, and 2015, and was selected as a First-team All Pro in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2015. He tore his ACL and MCL in the 2014 NFC championship game (i.e., the end of the 2013 season) and missed the entirety of the 2014 season. He also tore his achilles tendon in week 4 of the 2016 season, landing him on injured reserve again. He returned disgruntled and was released by the 49ers prior to week 6. The Oakland Raiders signed him to a 1 year contract for the remainder of the season.
Bowman, when happy, healthy, and motivated, is an elite three down linebacker who excels in all phases of the game, including coverage, which is an area in which the Redskins have suffered for many years. He’s played in the 3 – 4 system his entire career. On film, the 2017 version of Bowman showed savvy and the ability to diagnose plays like a savvy All Pro should. He also played a significant amount of pass coverage. While he doesn’t make many mistakes, he wasn’t flawless (nor is any player) and sometimes lacked the speed to stay with faster players in coverage. Since he only ran a 4.7 40 yard dash at the 2014 NFL Combine, and has since suffered ACL and achilles tears, declining speed and athleticism is a valid concern. Nonetheless, Bowman is 29, not 32, and should still have a few more good years left. He would be a quality addition to the Redskins defense and would give the team two players who can call plays. Contractually, Bowman will most likely be looking for a multi-year deal in the range of $10M per year, which is quite a bit for a non-pass rushing linebacker. Even if he doesn’t get that amount, he’s going to be expensive.
#2 – Demario Davis, 6’2”, 240 lbs; 29 years old
Demario Davis originally entered the NFL as a 2012 third round pick out of Arkansas St. by the New York Jets. In his college career, he played in 48 games from 2008 – 2011, making 229 total tackles, including 129 solo and 100 assisted tackles, plus 7 sacks and 4 interceptions. He ran a 4.58 50 yard dash and bench pressed 225 pounds 32 times at the 2012 NFL Combine.
His career NFL stats are as follows:
96 gms/82 starts; 376 tackles, 196 assisted tackles, 13.5 sacks, 1 interception
His year by year statistical breakdown:
2012 (NYJ): 16 gms/3 starts, 22 tackles, 4 assisted tackles, 0 sacks, 0 interceptions
2013 (NYJ): 16 gms/16 starts, 63 tackles, 44 assisted tackles, 1.0 sacks, 1 interceptions
2014 (NYJ): 16 gms/16 starts, 78 tackles, 38 assisted tackles, 3.5 sacks, 0 interceptions
2015 (NYJ): 16 gms/16 starts, 57 tackles, 32 assisted tackles, 2.0 sacks, 0 interceptions
2016 (Clev): 16 gms/15 starts, 59 tackles, 40 assisted tackles, 1.0 sacks, 0 interceptions
2017 (NYJ): 16 gms/16 starts, 97 tackles, 38 assisted tackles, 5.0 sacks, 0 interceptions
Davis has played in the 3 – 4 system his entire career. Despite the fact that he’s been a starting inside linebacker since his second year in the league, his raw tackle numbers prior to the 2017 season were only mediocre. Considering that his 2016 season in Cleveland was more of the same, numbers-wise, and that Cleveland converted to the 4 – 3 system in 2017, it wasn’t surprising that the Browns traded him back to the Jets (trade value aside). What jumps out of the page about his stats is his huge jump in performance in 2017 – his 97 tackles was tied with Seattle’s Bobby Wagner for tops in the NFL.
Davis is a player who is good in coverage, has a nose for the ball in the run game, and can occasionally get pressure on the quarterback via an inside blitz, which isn’t overly common for an inside linebacker. Rarely gets burned in coverage. He’s been remarkably healthy over his 6 years. The principal question about Davis is whether his 2018 employer is going to get the 97 tackle 2017 version, or the 57 tackle 2015 version. This uncertainty will most likely be reflected in his contract. I expect that he can be signed for a contract that is significantly less than that of Bowman, but more than the two year, $2M per year bargain contract that Mason Foster signed. Given that Davis has only had one season of elite numbers, he might be a candidate for a one year “prove-it” type contract, which would be more palatable to the Redskins.
Second Tier
#3 – Avery Williamson; 6’1”, 246 lbs; 25 years old (26 on March 9)
Avery Williamson was a 2014 5th round pick by the Titans out of the University of Kentucky. He played 48 games for Kentucky, making 147 solo tackles, 149 assisted tackles, 4 sacks, and 2 interceptions. He was selected to the 2013 All-SEC second team. Williamson ran a 4.66 40 yard dash at the 2014 NFL Combine.
Williamson has posted the following stats in his 4 year career:
63 gms/59 gms started; 239 tackles, 138 assisted tackles, 11.5 sacks, 2 interceptions
His year by year statistical breakdown:
2014: 16 gms/12 gms started; 51 tackles, 28 assisted tackles, 3.0 sacks, 0 interceptions
2015: 15 gms/15 gms started; 63 tackles, 39 assisted tackles, 3.5 sacks, 1 interceptions
2016: 16 gms/16 gms started; 73 tackles, 31 assisted tackles, 2.0 sacks, 1 interceptions
2017: 16 gms/16 gms started; 52 tackles, 40 assisted tackles, 3.0 sacks, 0 interceptions
Williamson’s statistics indicate solid and reliable, if unspectacular, play. Williamson has a reputation of being dominant as a run stopper and lacking but improving in coverage. On film, he has good vision and the ability to shed blocks from interior offensive lineman and has a nose for the football against the run. He would be a solid addition to the Redskins front 7.
#4 Zach Brown, 6’1”, 244 lbs; 28 years old
We all saw the outstanding job that Zach Brown did for the Redskins against the run – he led the NFL in tackles until he went on injured reserve and missed the final 3 games of the season. However, despite his elite speed, Brown is a liability in coverage, and for that reason, might not be the three down starter the Redskins need to pair with Mason Foster, at least not at a premium cost. Plus, Tennessee and Buffalo have both given up on him, and from a statistical perspective, he’s had two great years and a bunch of other mediocre to good years. This is why I’ve ranked Brown this low on my list.
Brown was a 2012 2nd round pick out of North Carolina by the Tennessee Titans. He played 47 games for North Carolina, making 143 solo tackles, 87 assisted tackles, 5.5 sacks, and 7 interceptions. Brown was a track star in high school and reportedly ran a 4.28 40 at North Carolina. He ran 4.44 at the 2012 NFL Combine[2].
Brown’s NFL career stats:
78 gms/62 starts; 376 tackles, 160 assisted tackles, 16.5 sacks, 7 interceptions
His year by year statistical breakdown is as follows:
2012 (Ten): 16 gms/14 starts; 68 tackles, 24 assisted tackles, 5.5 sacks, 3 interceptions
2013 (Ten): 16 gms/13 starts; 72 tackles, 19 assisted tackles, 4.0 sacks, 1 interception
2014 (Ten): 1 gm/1 start; 0 tackles, 0 assisted tackles, 0 sacks, 0 interceptions
2015 (Ten): 16 gms/5 starts; 55 tackles, 22 assisted tackles, .5 sacks, 2 interceptions
2016 (Buf): 16 gms/16 starts; 97 tackles, 52 assisted tackles, 4.0 sacks, 1 interception
2017 (Was): 13 gms/13 starts; 84 tackles, 43 assisted tackles, 2.5 sacks, 0 interceptions
Brown tore his pectoral muscle in the first game of the 2014 season and missed the remaining 15 games. This was his only major injury up until his foot injury in week 14 of this past season. Other than the season lost to injury, what is most noticeable about his statistical output is that he didn’t “explode” until 2016 with Buffalo; in fact, he lost his starting role in his last year in Buffalo. He was selected as a Pro Bowler in 2016.
Watching Brown’s 2016 and 2017 film shows that he’s an elite-level weakside pursuit linebacker. He’s not at his best when he has to engage the interior of the offensive line. His best asset is his speed, and he knows how to effectively use his speed to protect the edge in run defense. Unfortunately, as stated, he’s quite simply a liability in his coverage role, which is no doubt part of the reason why he hasn’t received the long term deal he wants. As CBS Sports’ Joel Corry stated on our show a few weeks ago (listen here), Brown is likely to demand a multi-year deal at top of the market value around $10M per year. The Redskins do have the cap space to pay that amount, but Brown is not worth that much due to his limitations in coverage. If he returns to Washington for 2018, it’s most likely doing to either be another one year deal or a multi-year deal at a significantly lower amount – think slightly higher than Mason Foster’s deal on an average annual value basis.
Other possibilities
- Gerald Hodges, 6’1”, 243 lbs; 27 years old
- Jon Bostic, 6’1”, 242 lbs; 26 years old
- Todd Davis, 6’1”, 235 lbs; 25 years old
The “Absolutely Not” File
Brian Cushing – 6’3”, 254 lbs; 31 years old
Brian Cushing is a “name” with a high profile, and many fans remember him as the playmaking, high-intensity linebacker that he once was. He is no longer that player. Cushing tore his ACL in week 5 of the 2012 season, broke his fibula midway through the 2013 season, partially tore his MCL in week 14 of 2016, and was suspended for 10 games of 2017 for violating the league’s performance enhancing drug policy. On top of that inglorious history, Cushing’s performance on the field has suffered significantly from his heyday earlier in his career. This is not a player who would be helpful to the Redskins.
Conclusion
This group of inside linebackers most definitely leaves something to be desired. All of them have flaws – Navarro Bowman has injury concerns and will be expensive, Demario Davis, for all of his production last year, may or may not be able to replicate his 2017 performance, and Avery Williamson is a solid performer but isn’t going to blow anyone away. Redskins fan favorite Zach Brown is going to have big money demands and is a liability in coverage. The starting spot opening next to Mason Foster is a bit of a quandary, for sure.
What do you think? Let me know in the comment section below.
[1] All college statistics is courtesy of https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/. All pro statistics and some background information is courtesy of https://www.pro-football-reference.com/. Combine data and some background information is courtesy of www.nfl.com. Some background information is courtesy of Wikipedia.
[2] http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1156216-zach-brown-biggest-strengths-and-weaknesses-of-2012-nfl-draft-prospect
http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/02/28/slow-motion-explosion/
We got a new podcast up, IJB.
Blow the wad on Sheldon Richardson
Pass
More mouth than on field production
Blow the wad is a bit extreme…more specifically, he’s the most talented Dlineman out there and still in prime years. Seattle wants to bring him back, but is going to try to low-ball him as they figure his market demand has diminished. There’s an opportunity, and it would behoove the Skins to jump at it.
depends on if and what Brown might sign for, if they end up bringing back Breeland.
Spotrac, including a projected cap hit by Smith of 17 mil (which is a projection, and may not be accurate) and the draft pool, is projecting the 2018 cap space for the Skins of about 28 million. Prob need 7-8 million to sign jabronis. So that leaves 20 million for significant “work” in FA. I would guess that Smith’s actual cap hit will be 4-5 mil more (signing bonus). So, that leaves about 15-16 million. Of course, that doesn’t include any other contract “work”, as you know, so they could increase that number, but I still think you’re looking in the neighborhood of 20-ish million to spend at the swap meet.
https://youtu.be/d2jWx1khCX8
I find that people either love these commercials are hated them. My daughter and I used to laugh about them she was probably 9 or 10
You forgot to mention one of Bowman’s best attributes – local kid! Suitland H.S. in the house!
But for real, the risk-reward ratio is high on this one. Happy to sign him to a contract, but it’s got to have some team-friendly clauses with regards to injury.
Since the Caps and Wizards won last night its half off online orders of Papa John’s. With the wife being at grad school tonight…..sounds like pizza night for me and my sons!!
I know it’s easier said than done, but we need to move back if at all possible and recoup that 3rd round pick. Going from pick 44 to 113 or whatever is a long gap. Probably not gonna happen but it needs to.
For someone to realistically give us their third rounder, this year, their guy will have to be sitting there at 13.
I know. It’s never easy to orchestrate a draft day trade.
First-pick hands them out like candy.
yeah its’ a little inaccurate for sure on there. I try to avoid them but lately I take one.
Keep the pick. Recoup Fuller.
I wish
Happy Wednesday
Hpy Hpy hummmmmmmp dayyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Heyo
Funny how “experts” tout Bradley Chubb as a get after continuously harping on about how our edge rusher stable is full, as if memory weren’t a thing. Laughing out loud.
Papa Johns is done being the NFL’s official pizza.
I wonder who will get that gig next? Pizza Hut, Dominoes?
Papa John’s needs to reboot. The franchise store they have here is a train wreck, I refuse to buy from them anymore. There is no value for your dollar anymore with them.
undercooked, soggy pizza…..
Stupid ass kids running the joint.
2 of my best friends used to work at papa johns and they made the best pizza when we were in college.
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I actually don’t mind Caesars. Pretty cheap and it’s def decent pizza.
The last I had Little Caeser’s…it was the 80’s still.
They went bankrupt at one point and are slowly making their way back.
Bit of fog. Bird chirping.
And now….coffee.
Just one bird, eh?
A juvenile was arrested Saturday after he punched his father in the face during an argument over texting, knocking him unconscious and causing a severe head injury, according to a statement from the Yarmouth Police Department.
The juvenile, whom police did not identify, is being charged with assault and battery on person over 60 with serious injury, according to the statement. He is scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday in Barnstable Juvenile Court.
The confrontation took place outside Il Montebello Restaurant on Kings Circuit in Yarmouth Port, where the family was having dinner. The father had repeatedly asked the son to stop texting, which led to an argument outside, according to the statement.
Once outside, the juvenile struck his 63-year-old father with so much force that it knocked him unconscious, the statement says. The father fell and hit his head on the ground.
An off-duty Dennis firefighter took action at the scene that helped save the man’s life, the statement says. Yarmouth fire officials and several patrol officers also responded.
You punch your 63 year old father?
And WTF is a 63 year old doing with a juvenile child?
Who does that guy think he is anyway? Donald Trump?
Rumors from another site:
-Redskins could be interested in Kyle Lauletta as mid-round developmental option behind Alex Smith
-Su’a Cravens for Martavis Bryant? There’s mutual need, a deal could be worked out at the Combine
Not seeing anything negative there.
I’d jump on that
Yeah
One head case for another… whatya got to lose?
I like the Spider, also
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/redskins-could-have-the-defensive-player-the-steelers-need-in-a-martavis-bryant-trade/vp-BBJCEpS
He thinks things were to tough in Washington , wait till he gets to Pittsburgh’s training camp. He’s gonna be in for an even ruder awakening . he won’t be mollycoddled around that place .
44 mocks now
Vita Vea, DT, Washington 11
Derwin James, S, Florida State 8
Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama 8
Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama 5
Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia 4
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech 1
Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame 1
Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama 1
Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio 1
Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State 1
Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming 1
James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State 1
Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma 1
D_C Bots working overtime.
Ted Cruz was Dinosaur Bob
https://youtu.be/HdmYObBX2o8
I spent the first 37 years of my life deeply immersed in the US Navy
it was interesting to hear about battles in WW2 and Korea from people who actually participate, plan or led in them
discuss naval doctrine with top level people
I think I was 12 before I realized pretty much every summer vacation was geared around some military event going on in my Dad’s job
So tell us about drone boats
the Navy has RPV’s remotely piloted vehicles
no complete drone boats
But WHEN will we have full drone boats?
it will be years, Navy traditionally has been very slow to adopt new technology
prior to December 1941 a lot of the Navy brass thought that aircraft carriers main purpose should be to scout for the battleships
But wait… drone boats are the FUTURE!
took long walk after work
made a yuge margarita (in honor of Steve, I’m drinking his share of tequila in my life)
made steak quesadillas
life is good now
work stress
when your bosses’ boss forgets to invite you to a review meeting and then asks for the presentation updates based on the meeting
uh dude what meeting? Oh wasn’t there. Nobody took any notes, no that’s not a problem at all
typical corporate clusterfuck
that blew my 3:45 to 7pm time slot out of the water
Well that just isn’t acceptable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsnf6ml1ae8
Sturgill Simpson is bad ass.
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I’ma wait for it, lol
No dead bait in my boat
Lol
Not sure that’s correct.
-descendants of slaves, women
I know right? Combines took yer jerbs!
I want to go fishin’….I want to be on a boat on the bay or in the Atlantic with a cool breeze, salt mist, and a few beers. I don’t care if I catch anything…anytime I’m on the water. I’m at peace.
We’ll do some fishing before too long there Rick. Things are moving in the right direction…
Good
Thanks for reminding me Rick about Mission BBQ. We have so many choices here. That brisket is so damn good no sauce needed.
Yup….they’ve got great sides too.
Mac and cheese was great and they have what they call Kickin collards which I loved. But you have to like a little Heat
Democratic representative Schiff now will not support his very own 2013 Bill about presidential appointed judges. His bill verbatim every comma every period. Was reintroduced by Republican and Schiff refuses to support it. Give me a break!
SHOCKING!!!
Fucking dipshit . Every time I see that fool I want to kick him in his head .
I feel that way about Ted Cruz too though I’m telling you both parties are worse than the other
Nobody seems less genuine than Ted Cruz
Can’t stand listening to him either . Like Schiff , he will say virtually anything
Everything he says comes off like he’s some televangelist giving a sermon… even when he’s just having a conversation
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Blasphemy! er…… whatever the science word is for blasphemy, THAT WORD! – Walt
Eleven people, including some Marines, were sickened after an envelope containing an unknown substance was opened Tuesday at Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall in Arlington, authorities said.
At around 5:55 p.m., the Arlington Fire Department tweeted that 11 people were sickened after a letter was opened in an administrative building at Fort Myer.
More
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why is the satellite orbiting something flat like the Earth? 🙂
That’s classified.
The Turds are going to attempt to trade Orlando Scandrick… or cut him.
I’m pretty sure I know which one it will be…
Pass
Pretty sure everyone will say that… hence he’ll HAVE to be cut
Yeah, still don’t want him.
Nope… just trying to figure out what Steven Jones was trying to accomplish by telling people we will either trade him or cut him.
Prolly just fishin’
…with dead bait
Haha!
I’ve heard Turds fans talk him up.
I will enjoy the coming passing of Dez Bryant.
Soon as I finish building this 3000 MW antenna, we can contact Optimus Prime, and er’rytang gonna be Irie.
Is he gonna fly the drones?
The drones will be under his command, yes.
military-industrial complex
is now Boeing, Lockeed-Martin, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and BAE Systems
you can probably include United Technologies cause they make everyone’s jet engines
What seems to go unstated in these military bashing rows (not necessarily you, noone; I mean in general) about the military industrial complex is that DoD is close to critical mass right now regarding weapon systems acquisition. The USAF desperately needs the F-22 and F-35 at fully capability ASAP, and the army is in even more dire straits in some instances.
about 45% of all weapons systems procured are flawed in some respect
we keep building super expensive weapons for the last war
and it is extremely hard to defeat distributed irregular forces which are our main foe right now
and some military concepts take decades to come to fruition
like precision bombing, expected to win WW2 wasn’t a reality until 1990
and we still had to invade Iraq
True. We need thousands of crazy expensive airplanes to defend our skies from….from…..ummmm…….illegal border crossings. Yea. That’s it!
Russian bombers are making a comeback
the new T-14 is so expensive and hard to make, the Russians cannot afford more than 50 or 60 and use them for parades only
the problem is that a lot of the fighters are reaching their end of useful life due to the stresses of ACM
Yes. For example, the AF has had to place pretty severe flight parameter restrictions on the F-15Cs due to their age. In another example, the AF is flying C-5 transports with service entry dates in the early 70s in many cases. B-52 are from the 60s.
Drones. Cost less. Greater, more aggressive maneuvers. No ACM.
Drone technology isn’t nearly ready for that.
Yes it is.
Way ahead of the curve as the development of piloted aircraft.
I love it when folks who didn’t spend 24 years of their professional lives around military aviation try to argue with me about the capabilities of military aviation.
Unmanned craft are the future. In the air, sea and yep…land too.
We can block the sun with drones while spending a fraction of what we do on manned craft and pilot development programs.
Like when, tomorrow? Of course they are “the future”
The future is now
– Alex
So, when can we expect delivery of trial aircraft?
Trial?
The USAF already has hundreds of operational drones. At a substantial savings compared to manned craft programs.
And they use them within their capabilities, no?
I don’t know Steve. I think I would take the opinion of a pot growing stoner who sits around contradicting everyone on everything from flu, hangovers, whether gun owners who join the NRA drive rental cars, and how the universe is going to end over guys that actually have experience… wouldn’t you?
The Russians and the Chinese are both flight testing 5th generation fighter aircraft that are far more capable than our legacy 4th generation F-15s and F-16s and our 4.5 generation F-18s, although not nearly as capable as the F-22 or F-35, particularly the F-22. And guess what the Russians and Chinese are going to do once they are ready to become operational? Sell them all around the world.
With crap engines.
Yes, thankfully, with crap engines.
Shhhhhhhhh! 🙂
The Chinese will fix that eventually; it’s just going to take them awhile.
Yeah. The time for bullshitting around has past. Without our military, we’re out of the loop.
Whoopdee-flipn-doo.
Arms races are a fool thing to chase. But okay, lets compromise. Let’s have fantastically capable weapons and air superiority programs, without the huge costs and completely unnecessary volume of orders.
You realize that congress already drastically slashed the F-22 and F-35 program, right? In the case of the F-22, to levels below that which the USAF Chief of Staff said was the minimum necessary to accomplish strategic goals? And you realize that the more these program orders are cut, the more expensive each weapon system becomes per unit?
You realize they had some big ass eyes when they began procuring the F-35 yea?
The order was too damn big. We don’t thousands and thousands of the things.
List of United States defense contractors
the defense guys I worked for back in the day now are part of either GD or BAE
PEARLAND, Texas (KTRK) — A take-down of an alleged large-scale cockfighting operation netted 50 arrests and 165 seized fowl in an unincorporated part of Pearland over the weekend.
According to the Brazoria County Sheriff’s Office, deputies were called to the 17700 block of Wells Drive at around 2 p.m. Sunday on reports of a possible rooster fighting ring.
The sheriff’s office said deputies first came upon a very large number of vehicles and people in the area. Deputies detained the 50 people, including Jesus Carlos Rueda, Herminio Leija and Ramirro Rivera who were all charged with state jail felony cock fighting.
Misdemeanor cock fighting counts are pending for the remaining 47 detainees.
Deputies also located between 30 and 50 dead roosters believed to have perished as a result of the alleged fighting ring.
The live birds were taken into the custody of Brazoria County Sheriff’s Office-Animal Control. The Brazoria County Court is expected to determine what will happen next with the seized roosters.
http://abc13.com/3-charged-with-felony-cock-fighting-in-brazoria-co-bust/3143883/
Felony cock fighting. lol. That’s a great charge to have on a criminal record.
Pearland isn’t exactly a hotbed of culture, FYI.
Texas Penal Code 42.105. Cockfighting
(a) In this section:
(1) “Bridle” means a leather device designed to fit over the head and beak of a cock to prevent the cock from injuring another cock.
(2) “Cock” means the male of any type of domestic fowl.
(3) “Cockfighting” means any situation in which one cock attacks or fights with another cock.
(4) “Gaff” means an artificial steel spur designed to attach to the leg of a cock to replace or supplement the cock’s natural spur.
(5) “Slasher” means a steel weapon resembling a curved knife blade designed to attach to the foot of a cock.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly:
(1) causes a cock to fight with another cock;
(2) participates in the earnings of a cockfight;
(3) uses or permits another to use any real estate, building, room, tent, arena, or other property for cockfighting;
(4) owns or trains a cock with the intent that the cock be used in an exhibition of cockfighting;
(5) manufactures, buys, sells, barters, exchanges, possesses, advertises, or otherwise offers a gaff, slasher, or other sharp implement designed for attachment to a cock with the intent that the implement be used in cockfighting; or
(6) attends as a spectator an exhibition of cockfighting.
(c) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that the actor’s conduct:
(1) occurred solely for the purpose of or in support of breeding cocks for poultry shows in which a cock is judged by the cock’s physical appearance; or
(2) was incidental to collecting bridles, gaffs, or slashers.
(d) An affirmative defense to prosecution is not available under Subsection (c) if evidence shows that the actor is also engaging in use of the cocks for cockfighting.
(e) It is a defense to prosecution for an offense under this section that:
(1) the actor was engaged in bona fide experimentation for scientific research; or
(2) the conduct engaged in by the actor is a generally accepted and otherwise lawful animal husbandry or agriculture practice involving livestock animals.
(f) It is an exception to the application of Subsection (b)(6) that the actor is 15 years of age or younger at the time of the offense.
(g) An offense under Subsection (b)(1) or (2) is a state jail felony. An offense under Subsection (b)(3), (4), or (5) is a Class A misdemeanor. An offense under Subsection (b)(6) is a Class C misdemeanor, except that the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if it is shown on the trial of the offense that the person has been previously convicted of an offense under that subdivision.
I thought the combine was on this week ? Not seeing anything but last years .
the good stuff on TV is Fri-Mon
Tue thru Thur is fly in, weigh in, intv, meet & greet. etc
10-4
That’s the warm-up…
@@disqus_QrQGj7tcwn:disqus come to Dallas. Find your way to Mia’s Tex-Mex (4322 Lemmon Ave) and order the refried beans.
Close your eyes and take a bite. You will be instantly transported to…the Colonel’s original recipe. I kid you not.
Next time I’m up that way, I’ll try it if possible. Fair warning, though: I’m not a huge Tex-Mex fan.
The brisket taco plate comes with rice and refried beans. Any time I’m there, it’s a struggle to order something besides their brisket tacos.
“But the US spends more than all developed nations combined. And Just adding another trillion doesn’t solve a damn thing.”
If not for perpetuated war, what then, would we have?
A lot of really cool stuff. Less stress. And much better health.
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That’s a damn sight better than trillions…that offer no return.
chicken enchiladas , Spanish rice
primo
I did pretty good. It was good.
No refried beans? It’s not complete without the room clearing refried beans.
No. I don’t know how to make them and I’m not doing the can stuff . I do love refried beans though . I love Mexican food period . All of it .
Oh my god it’s great… and so healthy
Basic recipe here. You can always add something for whatever your tastes run toward. But, beans and lard will get ya done just fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbuAaxH1Wqs
doesn’t look hard , would have to buy one of those mashers . I do cook pinto beans from time to time especially in the winter .
List of some of the upcoming FA OLB’s
Discuss:
•Nigel Bradham
•Dee Ford
•Anthony Hitchens
•Pernell McPhee
•Connor Barwin
•Junior Galette
•Tahir Whitehead
•Barkevious Mingo
•Jerry Attaochu
•James Harrison
•Erik Walden
•Trent Murphy
•Devon Kennard
•Lamarr Houston
•Dwight Freeney
•Jelani Jenkins
•Justin Durant
Maybe I’ll do FA OLBs next week. I haven’t made up my mind. Some of these guys would be good additions, but the team would need to make a decision about Preston Smith. We talked on the show either this week or last week about how Preston’s pressures/play stat actually led the NFL. If he really is that good, maybe the team doesn’t need to pay another starting-level salary for an edge rusher….????
We need the INTERIOR pressure and that will help bring home the edge pressure.
So true.
which is why, I sound like a broken record up here, begging for adding to our defensive line.
Why I think PS plays better when he is getting some good help inside. Probably say that for almost every OLB I guess
Meh…. he’s a bust – BTG, Moe, D_C, ect.
Nah, you’re confusing him with Ryan Anderson.
I never expected Ryan Anderson to be a sack artist. He was supposed to be a run stopper. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for another year.
One year? We’re judging guys at the end of their rookie season?
Okay…
Well I thought a second rounder from Bama would show a lot more .
Well, I expected a 1st round WR to show a lot more… or any number of high round picks we’ve had that have seemed to take for ever to show anything.
me too. It’s a curse
…or a second round pick from USC
G Damn.
or a first-rounder from Baylor
Oh for fucks sake
I had almost forgot about that damn fool
Lol
Ok but if he has another year like the last one ….? That’s my point .
he’s teetering on bust . gotta get it going now or he is one .
Not one bit, not for a nanosecond.
seems to me he does well when he has some talent on the interior along side him.
Preston played really well last year. Like these home grown guys. Maybe I over value team players
Barkevious to go with Trevarius!
Of those, though, I still think I’d take Junior if he’d sign for a reasonable amount, at least off the top of my head.. He was far better last year than I thought he’d be.
He showed something. I liked Trent’s progression until, well, you know.
I submit this as a military veteran, a proud military veteran. But I believe both parties have been responsible for this.
We were warned 50 years ago!
Fifty years ago, President Dwight D. Eisenhower joined such august company when, in his own farewell address, he warned of the rise in America of the “military-industrial complex. A Republican btw
Yep.
as I mentioned though, I believe both parties have been responsible for this
Here’s what makes me have to look away before I risk an aneurysm. Military contractors…using monies funded by tax payer dollars to lobby for more tax payer funded contracts. Which they in turn, turn around again to lobby for more tax payer funded contracts.
Don’t even get me started on the god damn reps forcing the DoD to take more money than the generals ask for.
yes it is very corrupt. The men and women that are serving by and large are honorable just amazing citizens fighting for our freedoms and I salute each and every one of them as a veteran. But the powers-that-be and the Congressional leaders as horribly rated as they are f*** this all up
If you don’t have any marketable skills… politic
That was copied from Insider. I’ve always wondered why Billionaires get “handouts” without consternation, but the poor receiving “handouts” is frowned upon?
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First, here’s my missive from last offseason about the new stadium. Humbly, it’s some of my best and most detailed work: http://www.thehogsty.com/2017/04/26/get-ready-for-a-virginia-stadium-everyone/
It’s not as easy as people think to just tell team owners to build their own stadiums. Even a modest stadium project in today’s world is about $1B – it can be far more than that, but let’s go with a billion. Does everyone realize how much the debt service would be on a construction loan that big?
The Nats stadium was financed in part by a $535M loan taken out by the District of Columbia. Annual debt service is $38M. Do the math, then, on a billion dollar loan. Let’s be conservative and call it $65M. NFL teams aren’t clearing much more than that, if that, on an annual basis right now. Even if you add in 100% of the stadium revenue as income – because teams are already getting a portion of it now – you’re talking about a major, major liability. I can understand why a team owner wouldn’t want to do this, and in some cases, probably couldn’t without tapping other resources. Not to mention, a group of lenders would then have a lien on the stadium.
The NFL could certainly finance some portion or even all of the construction costs, but (a) the NFL doesn’t want to, and (b) even the NFL would have a hard time doing 32 of them, or even say, 10 at a time, without at a minimum having a serious effect on the bottom line. It’s a major, major liability.
Considering the benefit a new stadium brings to the city and state, I think asking for some amount of public funds isn’t an unreasonable thing.
Oh the poor owners can’t pay off their loan in one year’s worth of Revenue? How many homeowners can pay off their home loan after one year of salary? I don’t honestly care one way or the other except to the extent as I said before that people that are poor through really no fault of their own, especially children, and they’re frowned upon for receiving some form of assistance and it’s called welfare . when billionaires are called smart receiving tax incentives. How about Big Oil and their subsidies? And Farmers subsidies? Tax incentives, subsidies, let’s just call it welfare or Rich Fair see what I mean
Dude
Commercial construction loans have either 20 or 30 year terms for the most part. I’m talking about 2 or 3 decades of those kind of annual obligations. That’s a huge thing to ask even an NFL owner to take on.
Jerry Jones and Stan Kroenke are setting a trend… cities are gonna stop ponying up as often… or as much.
Jerry Jones wasn’t nearly the first one to get public funding. Not by a mile.
Sure… but recently the most high profile
I can tell you that the state and the local governments were falling all over themselves to get JerryWorld built.
It is quite a stadium… and Texas loves the Turds.
yes it is, I have taken the full tour and it is quite amazing. And if any of you have never done that you need to go out there and stand and look what a 45-yard field goal looks like from The Field view it’s amazing they make any of them to me
most of those Representatives at the state and local and federal level aren’t highly-regarded if you look at any polls. They’re all after one thing, glory and to be reelected. Very few are altruistically serving to make communities better
I get it Mr. Steve. I do .
If a team isn’t clearing the annual debt service on the construction loan, they ain’t makin’ too much money. But that’s only for the first couple years until revenues increase and there’s your margin. If the lifespan of a stadium is the same length as the construction loan (20-30 years), then the owner would always have the debt service. But, really, isn’t that a cost of the business? So your revenues should exceed the debt service and will after a few years as revenues increase.
those were my thoughts as well, I just wanted to end that discussion because I was bored LOL
It’s a huge amount, I think, too much to ask of an owner. Of course, the entity that owns the stadium wouldn’t be the entity that owns the team, by the way, so mixing the income of the two really isn’t accurate. I was just talking about the owner’s net in a broad sense.
OK who told Bortles that eating raw garlic will prevent sacks?
I think he thought they said it would help him grow a sack.
Amazing.
‘From a decades-long strategy of exploiting state sales tax loopholes to its ongoing “HQ2” sweepstakes, Amazon’s leaders have rarely turned down a chance to use the tax system as the source of their competitive advantage.
The online retail giant has built its business model on tax avoidance, and its latest financial filing makes it clear that Amazon continues to be insulated from the nation’s tax system. In 2017, Amazon reported $5.6 billion of U.S. profits and didn’t pay a dime of federal income taxes on it. The company’s financial statement suggests that various tax credits and tax breaks for executive stock options are responsible for zeroing out the company’s tax this year.
The company’s zero percent rate in 2017 reflects a longer term trend. During the previous five years, Amazon reported U.S. profits of $8.2 billion and paid an effective federal income tax rate of just 11.4 percent. This means the company was able to shelter more than two-thirds of its profits from tax during that five year period.
Incredibly, Amazon’s corporate tax goose egg for 2017 doesn’t include the effect of a second big tax disclosure: the $789 million one-time tax break the company projects it will receive due to the new tax law. While the Trump Administration’s corporate tax cuts generally took effect on January 1st, the law includes a grandfather clause for companies that (like Amazon) have managed to defer or postpone tax liability from prior years.
Instead of paying these deferred taxes at the previous 35 percent rate, Amazon now gets an extra reward for postponing the taxation of this income: a 40 percent discount from 35 to 21 percent. This is the source of Amazon’s $789 million windfall.
At a time when Amazon is pitting state and local governments against each other in a Hunger Games-style contest over the location of the company’s new headquarters, the company’s new disclosure should cause some consternation among the state officials who have been most willing to pony up billions of dollars in tax incentives. In each of these states, Amazon’s sales tax dodging has pushed brick and mortar retailers to the brink of extinction, and its spectacular federal corporate tax avoidance is very likely mirrored at the state level. For states contemplating tax incentives for Amazon, the salient question is: what do you give a tax avoider who already has everything?’
https://itep.org/amazon-inc-paid-zero-in-federal-taxes-in-2017-gets-789-million-windfall-from-new-tax-law/
Wow they are just like Apple, Microsoft, ,,,
Wait a second… a company headed by an ultra liberal bases it’s business model on AVOIDING taxes?
Can’t be true. That would be hypocritical.
yeah Apple Lichtenstein Inc is worth $400 zillion dollars and Apple USA Inc is operating at a loss, go figure
Wait… let me guess… he’s giving all that extra money to the poor.
Sounds like Amazon has done a great job. Congrats on a job well done, Amazon tax lawyers. The less given to the government, the better.
You mean the less TAKEN by the government
Yes, that’s more accurate.
Good, we can get rid of that excess bump in military spending.
The military has been very drastically underfunded for many years. I was there; I saw it and dealt with it. Drastic, mission-risking type of underfunding.
But we don’t want to pay for it.
It’s a damn shame that the DOD can’t account for trillions of dollars spent and has never been subject to an audit. Pass an audit if you can. I want all expenditures to be accounted for.
Audit the Fed while you’re at it
I’m fine with auditing Homeland Security, NSA, and every other agency.
But the US spends more than all developed nations combined. And Just adding another trillion doesn’t solve a damn thing.
Personally, I would like to see Homeland Security disbanded.
I don’t think Homeland Security was necessary in the first place. It was just another layer of bureaucracy overseeing functions that were already happening. See, you and I actually agree on something.
exactly
DoD has auditors. You can’t do a public audit of DoD – too much classified going on.
My bad. The Pentagon has never completed an audit:
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/374866-budget-chairman-pushes-mattis-on-pentagon-audit
Urban dictionary says a Jabroni is a “poser” , “talks a big game but doesn’t back it up ” , etc. That’s what I generally refer too as a slack ass mofo.
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The #Lions have officially franchise tagged pass-rusher Ziggy Ansah. Not a surprise, but other top player off the market
Realize deeply that the present moment is all you ever have!
-Eckhart Tolle
Know your role, Jabronee – Rock
https://twitter.com/_fournette/status/968577436152684549
His breff?
Yep… breff
Daaaaaammmmmmnnnnn
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Damn that Mission Barbecue (thanks for reminding me Rick) is the best! Brisket is fork tender and needs no sauce whatsoever
Lean or moist?
Moist = Fat not rendered out. Have to cut away the fat.
Lean = Dry.
Anyone know the solution?
it’s about which side of the brisket you are using. if done right your lean is not dry at all, and the moist, you eat the fat.
melts like butter
Give me some nice burnt ends!
i like those too…completely different
Where I usually go, Hill Country, they do some amazing burnt end baked beans.
the solution: lard
moist of course!! Fat is flavor. Duh
And if Snyder can sink Richmond into the red on just a $10 million training camp, what do you think is going to happen to Va. taxpayers that Snyder wants to pay for his new billion-dollar stadium in NoVa.? Now that’s some REAL news. Start reporting!
That was copied from Insider. I’ve always wondered why Billionaires get “handouts” without consternation, but the poor receiving “handouts” is frowned upon?
I wouldn’t say it’s with out consternation. There’s a lot of objection to it from people of all political pov’s.
That said. All sides cave
not enough
True. I can at least understand it with things like Amazons HQ2. When you are talking about adding 50,000 high paying jobs to your area, that would change most cities.
because they are not handouts. people give Billionaires handouts (keeping in mind that the “Billions” is usually non-liquid assets that provide means of production (assets thereof) in the form of tax incentives to do their work spatially, because the perceived alternative is their investment goes elsewhere. give money to the poor and they buy sugary food, consignment couches, and booze; and don’t hire anyone, not anyone of consequence in the economy. but a new stadium? with accompanying conference/hotel complex, maybe a new town center, and locking in $5 mil per annum in income tax alone just form the players.
Darker View:
depending on what it is
one is an investment
the other is a liability
think about it this way, you give a hand up to rich people to have more children (not sure what that looks like), there’s a set of people you’ll not have to put money into again, you’ll benefit twice. taxes for public schools, and they go to private schools, and later in life, maybe just decide to skip social security. and those people are more likely to take the risks of starting businesses (because they can without becoming broke)
you give a hand up to poor people, they’ll breed like rabbits and you’ll end up paying for all of them, at least until they are 18. some of them will start cupcake businesses and used car dealerships.
but it depends on how the numbers work out for each context
you give handouts like public school to the poor, that’s an investement
you give other kinds of handouts, and they may not be much of an investment
it also matters whether or not, at any particular set of pseudo steady states, that there is a zero sum. over time the sum may get bigger (or smaller), but at any moment there is a zero sum. if you believe that (or if it is true regardless) then handouts to the poor are unsustainable and could be an anchor on the larger society (because in the zero sum, if some succeed, some must fail, and the middle ground is (depending on your perceived baseline) a loss for everyone who has the “natural selection” advantages, and thus, a FURTHER unsustainable burden on future society. you’ll see us deal with this in two ways. The one side will just not give out handouts. The other side will, in the name of some grandiose philosophy, break off the wealthy to form their own new unit. Like say, if California left the Union.
Typically these “handouts” for the rich (sports stadiums, practice facilities, manufacturing plants, office buildings, etc.) are sometimes unused area that, at any point, are not earning ANY tax income or are unused spaces COSTING a jurisdiction dollars. You give a tax break to DEVELOP these into something that, hopefully, generates some POSITIVE tax flow or, at least, doesn’t COST the jurisdiction dollars in upkeep. The hope is also that some level of jobs will be created whereas those spaces, for some length of time, generated none.
I’m just throwing the theory out there, but the devil is in the details for each specific deal; which is sort of what you are getting at. for me, such a deal would have to include other mixed uses and tangent development; or hey, if it lured Amazon to a part of NoVA that I live nowhere near…then that might … well… ASSUMING that the Amazon HQ2 isn’t a net tax burden… realizing that that isn’t going to be a consideration, just using it as example
I get everything you both are saying, I just don’t like the vitriol that some GOP’rs use when talking about the poor. Sometimes through no fault of their own, IE Bain Capital and vulcher capitalists like Romney deplete a company of any tangible assets and leave the employees to rot in the wind. Dan Snyder wants his Stadium paid for and while he may employ some people part time he certainly won’t make anyone’s life appreciably better. not the way he will by reaping the Ultimate Rewards many billions more than WE paid
So Leonard Fournette congratulates Bortles by telling him to spend some money on fixing his mouth because his breath is killing people in the huddle.
LOL!
https://www.amazon.com/TheraBreath-Fresh-Breath-Dentist-Formulated/dp/B001ET76AI?th=1
Other than Moe, any other regs hanging out over at The Insider?
I do a drive by every couple of days, but not me.
Conor Lamb… when you’re a Democrat and your biggest asset is that you are anti Pelosi.
I hate legacy politicians.
I hate politicians
There… fixed it for ya
Also largely true.
Back to Skins news. Mason Foster is calling Su’a a jabroni on twitter after Su’a made fun of Mason’s dreads.
well…. dreads….
Well… quitter
Seems normal to me, why would Suzy get respect from anyone.
WTF is a jabroni ?
i think it’s a kind of pasta….
I think its a hockey rink machine
Zamboni
fred,
just guessing, here, but i bet he knew that.
Know your role, Jabronee
But does he speak Russian?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/27/trump-names-brad-parscale-as-campaign-manager-for-2020-re-election-bid.html
just the southern dialect
https://wtop.com/virginia/2018/02/richmond-council-passes-refinance-plan-for-redskins-facility/
The Richmond Times-Dispatch reports the Richmond City Council voted
6-3 Monday to refinance it over the next 15 years and annually pay
$750,000 out of the city’s general fund.
That payment is in addition to the $500,000 in cash, goods and
services the city’s Economic Development Authority agreed to give the
Redskins each year it practices at the Bon Secours Washington Redskins
Training Center.
Mayor Levar M. Stoney asked the council to refinance the 5-year, $10
million loan as the city would default if it wasn’t refinanced by
September.
Councilman Parker Agelasto asked for a continuance, saying the deal was rushed and the solution shouldn’t be.
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What Bruce Allen manure is Crappaport going to spread today?
He called to apologize to Chad Dukes for his existence
Dukes has the gift of gab. Tough for a guy like Rapoport to deal with a guy who talks for a living.
mista moe
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NC State’s Bradley Chubb should be on our radar.
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One of you guys please go get Moe and bring him over here.
He’s obstinate, won’t change. I wonder if he’s getting paid to generate responses
I doubt that. He has a real job.
I’m not so sure about that
No, I know that for a fact.
Bills signed Vonte Davis.
Why didn’t we trade for Marcus Peters? That wasn’t a big price to pay for one of the best corners. Now the Rams D gets better.
Apparently he’s a total PITA in the locker room and doesn’t get along with coaches.
Of course you could’ve said that about Charles Haley, and he’s got five SB rings….
We get Smith, and Peters, they get 3rd, Fuller and Cravens….maybe a 2019 mid round pick.
Nobody wants Cravens
they can also have Haynesworth in the deal
Cravens has the trade value of a snack size bag of Doritos.
to some people in the trade, this is what it looks like net for them
Chiefs lose: backup QB, 6th round pick
Chiefs get: 3rd, 4th round pick 2018, 2nd round pick 2019
If you believe Fuller is an acceptable replacement for Peters
our picks adjusted for comp picks
1 13
2 44
4 113
5 149
6 188
7 231
did they get better or worse?
Worse
awesome
How could they get better?
^ Was kinda wondering about that.
I don’t know? Why I was asking.
Well… people get comp picks in certain rounds… those picks push all other picks AFTER them further down the list
Ugg, I dislike having no pick from 44 to 113 so much!
We gon trade back I think.
We never do that
We’ve got two in the 7th, no?
yes but it is not listed, hmmmmmm
shows 241 as Rams which is our other pick
More so than DPI…they need to fix that catch rule…make it like it used to be.
I hated the college PI rule of 15 yards but I have changed my mind this past year
I think the NFL should go that route and cut out a lot of the antics that go on during route running
I like Schwartz’s idea of giving the refs discretion to make it a spot foul or 15 yarder.
I think that adresses the concern that defenders will just start tackling receivers if they get beat.
Yeah, make it 15 yds. unless it’s blatant that the db is tackling the WR to prevent the catch.
You said Shart
I’d think that it’s a PI, or unsportsmanlike if it’s flagrant, so then we are talking ejections after that.
it’s getting to be like a slap fight going down the sidelines
if there is a foul somewhere along the route, fine, call that at 10, 12, 15, 25 yards. but if it gets to the point of the receiver being a second away from making the catch, and the db tackles him, that should be old-fashioned nfl interference at the spot of the foul.
Kiper’s Mock Draft 2.0 is out. He has us taking Vea at 13.
yes that was in my update a couple of days ago
two of the NFL.com guys still have us taking a QB
waiting on their 2.0 versions and the we should have a pretty clear picture
Kiss of death. Kiper never gets it right.
He does have Josh Allen going No. 1 overall….
if he’s there, it’s prob going to be Edmunds, and I don’t mean to say BPA or whatever or that’s what I would do, but I think that is what the Skins would do, esp if they don’t sign Brown
Wow what if they fix the catch rule and make DPI a 15 yard penalty in the same offseason?
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if you have never had at least one hangover, you’re not living life to the max
i can check that box. so… how many is too many?
It’s not a number. It’s a threshold.
When there’s entire weeks of months, months of years and years of decades that you’re fuzzy about….you’ve hit too many.
whew….
If you’re starting to have hangovers in jail you’ve had too many
And if you have more than 1 a week, you’re maxed out.
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Correction, the two people Rapoport saw were actually 2 old black ladies.
He gets confused.
F this guy
–Chad Dukes
Sure… they’re going to draft Mayfield
mista moe
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NC State’s Bradley Chubb should be on our radar.
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He’s still got it. 😀
What’s he got is the real question
I think he goes top 7…but yea.
Moe was always giving out these hot takes about players we should pick who were never going to be available at our slot.
Lol
on the radar of who gets picked before #13 does
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The NFL competition committee appears to have unanimous agreement that controversial catch rulings involving Dez Bryant and Calvin Johnson should have been ruled complete, according to Giants owner John Mara. So the committee, meeting in Indianapolis… http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0760203828007017322-4 …
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NFL competition committee is discussing the possibility of limiting defensive pass interference penalties to, at most, 15 yards.
Thank goodness. This is a long time coming.
I like that move.
It’s basically the college rule, right? I don’t like it.
More or less. I think in college its 15 even if you have PI at 7 yards. So this sounds like it may have a little difference.
i don;t like it. people will just flat-out start tackling a guy who beats them. i prefer the pro rule.
How you gonna tackle someone who’s already passed you?
Come on Alex…
🙂
https://twitter.com/MarkMaske/status/968542402536493056
Interesting
https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/968550916973621248
Yes, let’s give refs MORE discretion to fuck up the game with
How about stop flagging CBs when all the receiver does is hit the brakes and turn their head a bit as if they have any chance at catching the ball?
Plays designed to create penalties…that stuff needs to be flagged.
I’m all for it.
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Fun tidbit for my draft people. Stephen Jones said he can’t see the Cowboys spending a 1st-round pick on a “true” nose tackle. In order to justify a 1st-round pick, he said the player would at least need to possess some 3-tech traits.
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I’m not sure there ARE any “true” NTs anymore. Can’t think of a college team that runs a pure 3-4.
Even Vea lined up nearly as often at DE as it did as a true NT.
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/952771332097355781
Now, a bad ear infection. Awful. It’s like someone driving a knife in your ear.
Food poisoning. Blechhhh……
Yes I mentioned that below.
I once got food poisoning from some under cooked buffalo wings, 2 days of waking up being sick to the point of passing out then waking up and being sick to the point of passing out.
Only times I’ve ever felt worse than when I had the flu were the two times I had strep.
Hangovers are worse than flu.
Food poisoning not as long as the flu, but equally as bad of a feeling IMO.
probably, unless you’re confusing the flu with the norovirus, or like me, if you get the flu, it’s a high prob of also getting a bac sinus infection.
yep, that too.
kon,
hangovers end quickly, in my experience. the flu lingers and lingers.
Flu is gone a few hours after waking up. Hangovers are with you for days.
^ You need to stop drinking.
You’re the town lush.
I’m just stating the science of things. You may not be feeling it, but the alcohol you consumed days ago, is still effecting your body.
days?! no.
i’ve never had enough alcohol to have a hangover with me for days.
not “effecting”. it’s “affecting”.
-Walter
hahahahaha! that’s right, josh!
^Good sport (still not a real Redskins fan, though).
verb
verb: effect; 3rd person present: effects; past tense: effected; past participle: effected; gerund or present participle: effecting
But they were talking about what “feels” worse, so………..
Never had a hangover.
A bad psychedelic trip is worse than any hangover.
Lol
but you might become a wealthy artist
No idea what a bad trip is.
That is, I have no idea what a bad trip is.
Well 1 time, I realized the origins of mans self awareness, and witnessed the inevitable collapse and re-birth of the universe.
That was a really bad trip.
How is that a bad trip? Sounds damn amazing to me.
You DON’T want to know how the universe ends. Trust me. It’s violent, painful, and horrific, as the collective consciousness of all the sentient beings are collapsing in on themselves into nothingness.
I thought it ended when Trump was elected
Dark and cold….did something happen to you one time in a cave?
Cold? no, it’s not cold, it’s hot with the fires of a trillion suns
That’s, not how it’s going to end.
Do a few doses and go back for a second look.
You’re on one . I had the flu three weeks ago and it was terrible . Lasted a good 5 days . I have had hangovers in my life as well . No comparison .
Are you sure it was the flu and, the gravy?
i have never had a bad trip. mind you, i’ve tripped, but never badly.
I had a long, strange trip one time…
J. Garcia
That just occurred to you….
I once went to Philly… that was a pretty awful trip
well… touche.
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Flu vaccine only 33% effective this year. No guarantees w fluctuating strains..
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That means that it prevents 33% of people from getting the flu. What that number fails to account for is the fact that the vaccine seriously reduces the effects of the flu if you get it.
Better 33% than 0
Well, of course, there’s that, too.
not that it really matters, but the values I’ve seen against the troubling bug this year are in the 10-20% range. still, if it’s free and simple to get, that’s an easy choice to make.
Yeah I got the flu really bad many years ago. Never want to experience that feeling again. I always get my shot early in the season.
There’s not much worse…
Understand. Never had a flu shot. Maybe next year tho…just saying this years flu really smart and will continue its evolution
^ THIS ding ding ding
winner winner chicken dinner
people who got flu shots were way less likely to die
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i’m hoping we learn that cousins was a product of gruden’s great offense. cousins certqainly improved over the years with gruden. remember the interception-prone sulking qb? gruden apparently fixed that.
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And successfully turned him in to the fumblethefuckinballallthefuckintime-prone QB.
-cosigned RG3. Lol
Meanwhile in Texas, incumbent Republicans are starting to squirm a little.
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Sure as only one side of the Earth is ever facing the sun at any given time, you can count on republicans to play the fear card.
Said the guy for the party that tells it’s constituents that they are going to die every time a Republican bill passes.
Okay staunch Republican party member. Whatever you say.
That’s right… whatever I say. You’re finally getting the hang of it.
I’m rubber , you’re glue …
Well, the Governor seems a little concerned.
I feel better when ALL politicians are a bit concerned. Unfortunately all they seem to care about is getting reelected. Making an actual difference… well, not so much.
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No they aren’t
I would squirm if I were in texas.
It’s always too damn hot and uncomfortable.
And all those dudes walking around with no horns………sketchy
Never trust a grown man in a suit and cowboy hat. That man’s a fraud.
-Teddy Roosevelt
Lol
Nobody here is squirming, trust me.
Good, it’s safe. No need to even vote then. At least that’s the way it looks in Harris County.
As long as Steve doesn’t need a rental car to vote…
Oh, I’ll vote, and I don’t live in Harris County. I definitely want to make sure no more liberals are elected to national office.
Wendy Davis…a woman. A pro-choice woman at that. Lost by 20 pts to Abbott, but still managed 38% of the vote.
You may not be squirming…but only because, you’re not paying attention.
Wendy Davis….awful human being.
Gregg Abbott…the sort of scum-bag hypocrite that is typical of the sort person republicans will vote for no matter how how scummy they are.
They saw your wife out in public?
Her hotness would make anyone squirm. So thanks, I guess.
https://twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/968195439173419008
Everyone leaves out the rest of the statement…”as would everybody (43 Governors) else in this room”… Doesnt make his comment justifiable but takes some of the ignorance out of the statement….
NANANANANANANANANANANANA
Also, no President should say that, unless he’s obviously been in law enforcement, or combat.
No president should say 80% what this dude spews and contradicts…
Stop contradicting me.
Motormouthing w/o thinking…his synapses click to fast. Stroke-like…
That does sound stroke-like.
I’m not sure he has actual synapses
i can’t see him “run” in there – that’s just implausible. but, still, can’t you just see trump driving his golf cart, at full speed, right into the school and saving the day? go donald!
I believe the school had 3 levels, and the shooter was on level 3?
that golf cart better have the off-road package
…and an elevator
hhhmmmm…. 3rd floor… well, that’s a problem.
He could never have made it up the stairs.
We can build that……if you got the money, honey, we got the time.
also the majority of kids who died from the flu did not get flu shots
which are highly recommended for everyone and esp. for older and younger people
because those two groups have either compromised and immature immune systems
DoD forced me to get flu shots for 24 years. Those shots were basically the only time I got sick. I haven’t gotten another one since I retired from the AF. #neveragain
Ikr, healthy immune system, exposure to germs….strong like Hulk.
do the majority of kids get flu shots?
flu shots are easy peasy for a lot of workplaces (they’re quick and free), but it was a chore to get our kids vaccinated, so much so my wife didn’t have time to get hers, and she was the only one of us who, while she did get the flu, didn’t get pancaked by it like the 3 of us did (who all did get the shot this year). I mean, I get what is being said, but this year may not have been a great example.
Flu vaccine only 33% effective this year. No guarantees w fluctuating strains..
that this was an especially bad flu season does not in any way diminish the value of flu shots. the influenza virus mutates so quickly that we can never get rid if it.
however, were it not for idiots, we could eliminate measels, polio and the like.
Since when has humankind been in 100% agreement ?
^Whenever I fucking tell them to be 100% in agreement.
noone, as i assume you know, no vaccine is 100% effective. and, especially the flu shot which attempts to predict which of all the new, evolving strains will be problematic the following winter.
A guy I singled out as a 3rd rd pick last year for Skins.. DT Nazair Jones/UNC turned in solid contribution…and started 11 games for the Seahawks (their 3rd pick ) . Savvy scouting can find similar rough gems at NCState and FSU this year in the 3rd and 4th rounds.. imo. Again next year may be the time to go all in DL early.
Davenport be my pick if HAD to select DL at 13…
the entire NC State DL will probably be drafted this year
I’m really liking the RB from NC State too.
I would guess if Brown is not re-signed, the pick is Edmunds if he’s there.
A bunch of the fan-base (there’s Skins fans that are not also Neb fans??!!!??) would be energized by it. He fits a PON, and apparently he’s a pretty rare LB prospect, like Brown was.
Religion 101
God made man in his own image
God made man smart
Man has developed the ability to heal sickness and prevent disease
BAM!
We just hit the wall because now you’ve gone into God’s territory
you can only pray to get better you can’t actively go fix things because that would violate God’s will
So then God should have man stupid and not smart
Oops God must be dumb and falliable
BAM!
there goes religion out the window
To each their own. I’m not going to criticize someone’s religious beliefs.
I will, lets start with Finnish Paganism and their stupid god Ukko.
Oh and Mithraism! F Mithraism!
it’s why when I retire I’m going to start my own religion
take money like the Scientologists
have sex with all the women like the Branch Davidans
drink like a Catholic
Rather than wait for the paperwork, why not find one of the good fake religious groups and use that for your tax dodge.
Like Jedi.
you’re going to need all that money to have the compound and space for all those women and all that booze
What are you gonna call it? The Branch Cathologists?
if you think about it, then, the wall should have been hit when Thor set Thag’s hair on fire and discovered the ability to make fire without lightening
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Live 2018 NFL Mock Draft: Top half of Round 1. Redskins take DT Da’Ron Payne. Cardinals pick OT Mike McGlinchey – http://walterfootball.com/draft2018.php
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and beyond?
Walter and Charlie pretty much have us taking Payne every time they mock us
Whats your take on Payne at 13 ?
As a true freshman at Alabama in 2015, Payne had 13 tackles and half a sack.[2] As a sophomore in 2016, he had 36 tackles and 1.5 sacks.[3][4] In the National Championship Game against Clemson, he recorded five tackles and a half sack.
As a junior in 2017, Payne was named the defensive MVP of both postseason games that Alabama played.[5][6] In the Sugar Bowl versus Clemson, he intercepted a ball and scored an offensive receiving touchdown on the resulting drive. In the National Championship Game against Georgia, Payne had six tackles to help lead Alabama to their second national championship in three seasons.[7]
On January 10, 2018, it was announced that Payne would forego his senior year at Alabama in favor of the 2018 NFL Draft.[7]
WOOT!
Compelling for sure…
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aaaahhh…. so the offending idiot measles-spreading fuck from australia had religious (jehovah’s witness) reasons for not vaccinating.
fan-f-ing-tastic! that’s just awesome. if you have religious reasons for not vaccinating – good on ya. just stay away from the rest of us. don’t go shopping, or to movies or grocery stores or any public space. i support your right not to vaccinate, but as a member of society, just don;t expose me and my children to the consequences or your irrationality.
https://www.newsday.com/news/health/measles-exposure-tourist-1.16930142
http://time.com/5177355/measles-new-york-city/
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You tell ‘um, Walt!
zig,
does your mocking indicate that you think it’s fine for anti-vaxers to survive, generally, of of the fact that all the rest of us are vaccinated? that’s what parasites do.
i understand there are people who, for medical reasons, should not be vaccinated, and the rest of us should protect them with out herd immunity.
My kids got theirs at one year, and then before entering kindergarten.
I saw the documentary (Vaxxed; but there’s prob several) where the triple vaccine (MMR), given at the “wrong” time gives children high prob of autism. and I don’t know who funded it, but it didn’t appear to be religious in nature, though of course the facts have been refuted. but if you’ve seen it, it’s pretty persuasive, there’s just TOO many people to be a coincidence… right? well, there could be lots of things that cause the problem, and people just want an answer; but the movie does point out how autism is on a massive rise, and the disputed data is related only to the MMR triple vaccine (NOT individual shots for the 3 separately) and during a specific development phase for the infant. The problem is of course, that groups require that shot by X date, and the only game in town a lot of places is the MMR triple. but, in stories, you can see how all of that could lead to information being left out and a general mistrust of the whole system.
100% agree,
but, if you’re vaccinated, your children are vaccinated, …?
Or do we want the Serbian Thrash Metal band Space Eater, or as they are known in their homeland
Спаце Еатерhttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/qnSrBghr_RM/hqdefault.jpg
JJ Watt with wings.
Bout to listen to these guys on YouTube being a thrash metal fan!!!
Though, they may be ethno-nationalists, or maybe even Nazis.
I mean, everything I can find on them is in german.
Serbia…….. it’s a thing over there.
https://youtu.be/4KXJF58t30M
Pretty Thrashy.
Yeah
https://ansible.uk/books/tse2.jpg
Pulp science fiction…..was a religion created on the basis of this book? Is David Langford the next L. Ron Hubbard?
They mix sci-fi with football, they call it sci-foo
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So, the question is:
Do you want a DT who is a space-eater like Woolfork or Ngata, or a fast, disruptive DT like Aaron Donald?
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This team hasn’t played a 2 gap style for awhile now, so the space-eater thing isn’t nearly as useful as a fast, disruptive Aaron Donald-type.
So we’re at what, one for space eater?
space eater NT are a dying breed in the NFL
I head this somewhere before
I know the 3-4 is just our base but I’m not a huge fan of it. Seems like you end up with a few square pegs in round holes, plus at least one NT that only plays ~30% of the snaps.
This.
Terrance Knighton only played 10-15 snaps per game at most here. Granted, he sucked.
………the meat right off a chicken bone. (finished it)
We are not in a 3-4 very often in fact is very little we are in nickel more than anything else.
Yup. Part of the reason I’m not a big fan of the 3-4 even as a base. End up drafting DL and making OLB’s out of them and tying up a roster spot for a NT.
Ideally you want someone who can stop the inside run and also contain the QB in the pocket and collect 3-4 sacks. I’d say Linval Joseph is the prototype I’d be looking for.
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For what it’s worth: 0 Superbowl Rings in that group.
Man, that’s cold.
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Zack Brown was a late signing for us because he did not like our original offer and went looking for more
we got him at $2.3M for 2017
I don’t think he will have a huge demand coming off injury and being a year older
He’s not going to get a $10M/year deal
Think you give him a deal where he gets $4M/year for 3 years (combo of salary, signing, workout, roster, incentive) that is more than fair
I want to see what offers he gets, shocked if anything is even close to 7 a year.
The Redskins will let him test the waters and his agent will know how much the Skins will go for
I’m starting to be of the opinion that the Redskins can do better, even in free agency vs the draft. I’d take Davis over Brown (obviously, since I wrote it).
Grass is always greener. I’d like to see Brown back… when Foster was in there with him those guys were blowing it up… of course Allen was in there, too.
Same.
I would take a look at Todd Davis (the other Davis)
I’d like to re-sign Brown in the $4 – $6 million range with an out in 2 yrs., and draft a replacement who’s better in coverage.
Last couple mock drafts I saw (Rang and Brugler) both had Vea going in the top 10. If he blows up the combine we may not get a shot at him.
Good. We need Impact at 13. Versatility. Next year better crop of top pick DL from Clemson alone…be patient and dont settle for less to early.
Space eater vs disruptive DT?
Are we a 1 gap team again or 2 gap? Because that’s how I’d determine what we need the most.
I’ve got a good feeling about Doctson, Crowder, Grant (if re-signed) and co. this year.
With the Kirk drama behind us, A. Smith can focus on developing chemistry with his new team. I like the idea of hitting the reset button.
I’d be targeting Equanimous Brown from ND big time
Slow action on the river yesterday. Water temp dropped a couple, plus it’s roiled from the rains. Only had three takes, boated one 14″ largemouth in 4 hours. Obviously no pattern.
4. Time travel is always the worst in star trek.
“A City on the Edge of Forever” is one of the best STOS episodes
The one where they all end up in different times, Spock is in the ice age and goes mad? Makes no sense why he lost his mind, their reasoning is idiotic.
They did get better at time travel stories later on, mid to late TNG they started making sense of it.
no the Time Portal on the planet where Bones goes back in time and saves Joan Collins from dying and changes the course of history for Earth
Ah yes, that one is probably one of the good ones. They have to let her die to save the world.
So, the question is:
Do you want a DT who is a space-eater like Woolfork or Ngata, or a fast, disruptive DT like Aaron Donald?
IMO, Vea fits the former category, while Payne falls in the latter category.
I’d say Vea and Payne are in the same category, while Hurst fits the Donald mold. And that’s basically how I look at the pick at 13. If we go DT it’s gotta be either Vea or Hurst. If we trade down to the second half of the 1st then Payne is in play.
I’d go for the space eater. I think you want a combination of immovable object/pocket pusher with a disruptive under tackle, and Jon Allen is the latter. Ioannidis is actually pretty good, but he’s not really a NT.
I can see that, but I can also see 3 fast guys with great ability to fight their way through blocks and knife into the backfield to be beneficial as well. Especially in a passing league.
I would like to see Ion Man flanked by the 2 most disruptive DT’s we can find.
Space eater NT are a dying breed in the NFL
Next question: Who does Tomsula want? I’m thinking the latter.
I like Todd Davis. Solid pro, just beginning what should be his best years at age 25.
Here we go…
funniest thing i’ve read this week:
“I really believe I’d run in, even if I didn’t have a weapon,”
Graphic image of Trump running upstairs to protect children and women.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/968467159599976450
He probably would, if they were giving away Big Mac’s in the cafeteria.
well, we can discuss the infinitesimal possibility he would go toward danger, but w/o a golf cart,. it’s just implausible.
Star Trek Movie Rankings.
1. F
2. A+
3. B
4. C-
5. B
6. A-
7. B
8. A+
9. D
10. F
11. B
12. C
13. C
nerd
Still don’t get this grading system…. oh well.
Your score is: 20813 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Payne, DaRon, DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 12: Johnson, Kerryon, RB, Auburn (A)
Round 4 Pick 13: Watts, Armani, FS, Texas AM (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: Burnett, Deontay, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Jackson, JC, CB, Maryland (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Harrison, Desmond, OT, West Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Parris, Timon, OG, Stony Brook (A+
Where do the grades even come from?
mount olympus, i think. you know like from whence trophies.
I’m serious. Is that a fanspeak premium feature?
No it’s first-pick.com
From what I’ve figured out, they’ve created a numeric value for where they think each pick should go, but don’t tell you outside them being a day 1-2-3 pick.
If you take a guy who they rank as a top 5, at 15th overall, you get a A+ But if you take someone who’s closer to 30th, you get a bad grade taking him too early.
How ever if you take that guy they rank 30 at 40th, then you will get a good grade.
also, bonus points if you take a PON, based on their estimation of what each team needs
Yes, that too.
DNC…..
Nothing but A+ grades with a B+ final result? The reason? No POONA
I always assumed that the B+ grades are based on what you did vs the other 31 teams.
If you don’t get Luke Falk in the fourth it immediately drops you below an A
you got a B+ because you did not fill the needs that they outlined for the Redskins
so if they thought the Skins needed a ILB or OLB/DE and you didn’t pick one your draft gets downgraded
that is how I think it works
Yes and they think our top 3 needs are ILB, DT, RB.
Payne at 13? Puhlease.
What?
he’s now prob a guy you take in the 20’s
Today is the third anniversary of Leonard Nimoy’s death. So, here’s a little Star Trek trivia in his memory….. As you know, Spock was well known for his ears. Were any of you aware that he actually had three ears? Well, he did – a left ear, a right ear, and a final front ear.
Boooooooooo
The correct answer is “meh”, I believe 🙂
A great set of movies, though, Star Trek, at least up until the original cast stopped starring in them.
Well, 2-3-5-6 are okay. 1 and 4 I will pass on.
STOM 1,3,5 suck, 2,4,6 are good
3. You need to have 3 to wrap up #2.
4. Time travel is always the worst in star trek.
So here is some rough math when it comes to the QB salary. Need to speculate a bit, we don’t know what AS’s deal is fully. But if you add up Smith + Colt + assumed late round rookie as our 3 QB’s next year, they should come to between 21-22 million in total salary. Smith goes up to 23 the next few years, you can let Colt walk if needed, and keep the rookie on a sub 1 million deal for the next few years. So you’re talking 3 or 4 seasons with all the QB’s making less than 25 million, which is a good deal for the roster.
All you had to do was take a look at our salary cap projection chart.
But we don’t know about a 3rd QB, or Smith’s long term deal.
I would guess that Smith’s cap hit is going to be in the 21-22 ish range, he’s got 17 mil now with whatever signing bonus /4 added on; but that just makes year 5 (1+4 year extension) nice, as there’s no dead money on it
On the S article a few days ago.. Fitzpatrick w highest floor/ceiling/versatility… I think Derwin James eclipses Fitpatrick across the board. He swallowed up Fitz in tackles/assists playing 9 games less than Fitzpatrick in college. 42 inch vertical vs 37 for Fitz. Just see James’ ceiling comparable to Chancellors… This guy is growing more and more on my 1st pick list. Combine will be intersting on speed etc etc..
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alex, expressed with love: “you’re”. that’s short for “you are”. sorry and you’re welcome.
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LOL. So many technical grammatical mistakes with Walter’s correction (I count at least three, not including a lack of capitalization).
“I can’t at least three”
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please list the errors, capitalization aside.
Well, there’s the owl…
Hey folks. Been down and out but slowly on the rebound and catching up on things..
So …Zach Brown ‘at the right price ‘ people keep saying… so if not the right price be easy to find a plug and play player who was top 5 in tackles in the NFL before all the injuries on D made this guy wear thin down the stretch? Smh. Skins find a combo that works at ILB finally but peeps wanna move on cuz there is better or as good ..cheaper. Where is this guy ? Who says Skins get him ? And if they dont find him and let Brown go then what ? Bowman for more $$? Compton ? Spaight ? Way to big a risk to squabble over a mil or so imo on a proven LB. Chris Baker wasn’t a leader in tackles in the NFL. Baker vs Brown = apples and oranges imo.
I don’t see many people talking about Brown vs Swaggy. Where you get that?
I was wondering the same thing? Agreed with the rest of it, though.
Well thanks.
You are most welcome sir
Sporadic comments over time. Noone made and Skins fans overvalue comment below. And at Wapo…
from where I said peeps overvalue our players like we did with Baker
at Steve points out, Brown is great against the run but so-so in pass coverage
no other team wants to give him a big deal and once he finds that out (again) we should resign him for something reasonable maybe $4M/year for 2-3 years
and HTTRQGC basically proves my original point
I just watch Skins Lbs over the years Noone…not many Kuechleys in the league. Draft James and sign Brown and TEs are covered. He will get way more than 4 mil wherever he goes.. Skins need to keep that proven runstopper imo
My conclusion upon writing this column is that they can find another run stopper in free agency who also isn’t horrible in coverage. That’s why I ranked him low.
I just dont feel it. Top tackler in league tough to let go for me.
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WTF man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgQ8BJdkN5U
PErson who disposed of baby should be shot on site.
Here is how other NFC East writers think Smith will affect the division this year.
http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35744/how-will-redskins-qb-alex-smith-impact-the-nfc-east
They all are variations of the words. “Meh”
yup
They aren”t “meh” about Smith, really; they’re “meh” about whether he’s much of an upgrade over Cousins. But I think we all knew that already. Smith has strengths and is a very good QB, but unless we get the Smith from the first half of 2017 for the next three years, he’s going to remain in the “very good” category. Like the folks in the column said, the Redskins desperately need a RB and a WR to help Smith out.
But throw in the tremendous amount of cap savings, and to me, it’s a big upgrade.
The comments in the column are all pretty reasonable.
cousins and smith seem pretty comparable. i hope smith is as good as cousins. the good thing about smith is that he’s not costing 30mil/year. that’s a good feature in a pretty good qb.
Right 17 million for this year and 23.5 for the next 3 is actually a bargain.
He also turns the ball over a lot less… especially by fumbles. Smith had quite the season last year… so the question is which Smith are we getting?
i’m hoping we learn that cousins was a product of gruden’s great offense. cousins certqainly improved over the years with gruden. remember the interception-prone sulking qb? gruden apparently fixed that.
Hard to say what someone is going to get with Cousins. He certainly had some Jeckyl and Hyde moments. He is definitely a process QB. Let’s see what happens with a new process.
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Male or female!??? – Squinns
I believe you mean bloke or sheila
Bloody right, I did!
so…. was s/he vaccinated?
i’ve heard talk of alex smith WANTING to play for the skins. good on that crazy mofo.
I think we upgrade at RB and WR and if Reed can play 10-12 games with Vernon Davis filling in…We’re good to go.
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Per source, Kirk Cousins’ current plan is to not agree to terms during 2-day negotiating period but to take one or more visits as of March 14.
Threw that baton into the crowd…….no idea who picked it up.
He wants to be wined and dined with the red carpet rolled out. Maybe with a sack wash thrown in.
wined and dined, maybe some hand stuff under the table.
Can you blame him?
Not at all.
Who doesn’t want a sack wash… I mean… come on
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Free Agent S T.J. Ward Moving On From Buccaneers, Should Have “Strong Market” http://bit.ly/2HNqfoA #Bucs
WTF…did people not migrate over?
So Brees is seeking 27 Million a year….thats what Jimmy G just got from the 9ers. Saints wanna pay him 20 million. Stay tuned.
Brees>Garrapolo
Let’s make a run at him and scrap the Alex Smith deal.
lol
I don’t think ZBrown commands top dollar and he comes back
I think your right, but they will have to wait it out and see. He’s gonna go to market asking for 8-10 Mill, and you have to let him if you think you can get him for less.
alex, expressed with love: “you’re”. that’s short for “you are”. sorry and you’re welcome.
Walter, it’s not even worth it trying to explain that to him, trust me.
it’s not that I don’t know, I just don’t care.
you know nothing, alex zeese.
The real problem is that I know to much.
I even know the known unknowns.
Walter your the weather guy Flounder;s the editerr.
i…. will… not…. correct those…. errors….. i will not correct those errors..
It; cloudy wiff a chanse of rane hear. Is it sunny there?
zig,
it would have been funnier if you’d spelled “rain” like reign or rein.
That would insinuate a higher level…. we’re working downwards, right?
It’s very possible. I actually have come around to the idea that the Redskins can do better, partially as a result of writing this piece.
B/R ranking draft by position group or what most bestest is available
1. RB
2. LB
3. G
4. QB
5. DT
6. CB
7. DE
8. C
9. WR
10. S
11. TE
12. T
Notice they put LBs into one group. I haven’t looked at OLBs or 4-3 MLBs.
Fwiw, Tremaine Edmunds gets moved inside in the NFL.
yes I thought that was very lazy of them
So, we are at 42,770 comments.
Which is also about the number of calories I consumed watching the Skins this season.
I had to delete 2 comments that were in moderation when I posted this column.
I’m serious, guys, this vulgar name calling is going to end or we’re going to have to ban people
i must have missed that! Just as well.
Steve was quick, I didn’t even see the offending comments.
Meh
“Meh”, my writing, or “meh”, the free agent ILB group?
FA class imo, would much rather
It’s not the sexiest of classes.
C’mon man, what do you think? The group.
I was just joking.
Hmmmm….I guess this piece didn’t touch a nerve.
Why? Peeps always overvalue players
like Chris Baker and now Zack Brown
I would like to bring back Brown at the right price and draft someone to develop like Josey Jewell from Iowa
First
But can you be second?