Talking QB’s with Joel Corry

Joel Corry of CBS Sports joins our show to break down the Alex Smith contract, what the skins did right and wrong durring this whole quarterback swap. We also ask if he thinks the team will try to franchise tag Kirk or not?

  • Steve Thomas

    Move along – new post (draft preview, part 1 of many): http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/02/08/2018-draft-analysis-part-1-special-teams/

  • kon, for now

    Making her a red velvet cake from scratch this year

    Super max bonus blow points that I’ll spend the rest of the year cashing in

    Realistically though, mid-April

    Okay….March

    • noonefromtampa

      Okay about the 3rd time I open my mouth and say something dumb

      • kon, for now

        Gotta make a memorize an If Yes Then chart

    • SCamp

      Red velvet from snatch?

      Not sure about that one

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      That evening…..

      • kon, for now

        Truth

  • noonefromtampa

    FYI Ziggy Hood played 49% of all DEF snap last season second behind Ioannidis who played 53.5%

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Fire Manusky?

      • HTTRsince65

        get him legit talent

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          So what’s the problem, then?

          • HTTRsince65

            Have to get better, more legit talent

    • noonefromtampa

      Rank by DEF Snaps played

      Ioannidis
      Hood
      McGee
      Lanier
      McClain
      Francis
      Allen
      Jones
      Banks

  • walter_in_fallschurch

    how many defections, and defection attempts, do you think we will have during the olympics?

    actually, i guess if you were going to try to escape north korea, this would be an especially bad time to try.

    • HTTRsince65

      two

    • noonefromtampa

      I’m hoping a few DEMS made a break for NK

      but realistically zero is my pick on how many we will have

      • walter_in_fallschurch

        i agree it will be zero. or at least zero who attempt to defect and live.

        • HTTRsince65

          zero we hear about

  • btg

    How effective will Roquan Smith be with ZHOOD as the nt in front of him

    • alex35332

      On the depth chart right now Hood *should* be the 3rd NT. Behind Francis and McGee.

      • btg

        My question still stands

        • alex35332

          And my statement still stands. Hood’s our 3rd option. Francis was good, flashed at times with pressures on the QB, needs to get to a point where he can do it more, be on the field more. McGee can eat a ton of space if nothing else.

          • btg

            Who started all year long at the nose

            I’m talking reality

            You aren’t

        • mike5790

          I assume that they would use him like the Jags use Telvin Smith
          and you could still use your 2nd round pick on DL, and/or maybe even 4th or 5th on “Deldrin” Senat

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Yay Senat

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Tremaine will shed the block that ZHood let by.

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      Dline first round period (unless for some reason Rosen is still on the board, of course).

    • HTTRsince65

      not very

  • alex35332

    Because why not put out a crazy hypothetical.

    Skins attempt to tag and trade Kirk to the Browns.
    Kirk realizes he doesn’t want to play for Cleveland.

    Kirk offers skins a long term deal for the same money they are offering Smith.
    Skins welsh on trade for Smith, sing Kirk.

    There’s a .00000000000001% chance right?! Just like there’s a .000000000001% chance the Skins do a successful tag and trade.

    • MJ45

      What if skins sign Smith and trade him to a needy team and keep Cousins?

      • noonefromtampa

        What if Musk’s Telsa hits an asteroid which then impacts the Earth ending all life

        what happens to Football season?

        • kon, for now

          Holy shit!

          That’s that egomaniac’s plan!

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Nice avatar *****

          • kon, for now

            I felt like, I spent an hour of my morning looking at this thing. It deserves a lil somethin

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Hell yeah.

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          are they going to keep the cameras running on that? if so, it would be fascinating to see what happens as the car approaches/enters the asteroid belt.

          • alex35332

            I mean, eventually it would probably make its way past the asteroid belt.

        • mike5790

          again, I imagine that anything big enough to be a concern would hit that Tesla like a freight train at top speed

          the engineer might spill his coffee, but it’s staying on track, and the Tesla will be well… how fast do the asteroids move relative to the velocity vector the Tesla would be traveling at? is it possible to turn metal and plastic into vapor at that speed? I mean, the asteroid(s) of note would be orders of magnitude more massive than a Tesla.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            It would be melted into the nose section of the asteroid like bird shit.
            Some folks are overly impressed with Tesla and Musk.

      • mike5790

        that’s more likely than the Skins re-neg on the trade unless you know, A Smith fails a physical or something
        that is how UNLIKELY the Skins re-neg is, it would be professional suicide as it were

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      “Kirk realizes he doesn’t want to play for Cleveland”

      This makes absolutely no sense.

    • Zig-Zag_BC
      • walter_in_fallschurch

        remember that SNL skit where shatner was giving a speech at some trekkie convention, and he said to them, “get a life!”

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Probably……. somewhere in my spam folder.

        • Josh RosenSquinns

          Yes. Hysterical skit.

  • noonefromtampa

    FYI the Hog Sty crew thoughtfully provided you the key NFL offseason dates

    at the top of the page under Hog Sty Projects > 2018 Off Season Date to Remember

    It does require you guys to scroll up which is hard for some of you…

    • Lbsand

      ‘Scroll up’?!?

      • alex35332

        If to tricky just hit refresh and you will be at the “top”

        • kon, for now

          Nope

        • Lbsand

          ‘Hit refresh’?!? What kinda place is this.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Your employees are giving you a hard time this morning?

    • Different_Cat

      Scroll up? Why don’t you just kill me?

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      No can do, Kemosabe.

    • kon, for now

      dafuq

    • alex35332

      We provide a lot of crap… Thank Steve’s OCD.

      • noonefromtampa

        I do take full credit for providing the NFL Operations Link for the key dates
        I found that site last season
        they have lots of good info on that site
        the NFL has a few sites they really do not publicize much with good info

        • alex35332

          True. NFL even had a buried stats page that broke down OL play for a while.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Is your secretary around?

          • noonefromtampa

            nobody has a secretary anymore

            what is this Mad Men?

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            That’s too bad, she could’ve given you a victory bj or at least patted you on the back, lol

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Better than OCPSADHD

    • mike5790

      I type two words into google chrome bar and click on the top link
      “NFL calendar”
      and it finishes the rest for me

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Part of me wishes Bruce would try some stupid shit like that to inadvertently cast shade on himself.

  • walter_in_fallschurch

    why are people thinking there will be some sort of fancy tag-and-something with cousins? he’s gone. we’re not getting anything other than possibly a compensatory pick.

    and, actually, does our acquisition of smith reduce the chances of a compensatory pick for cousins?

    • Lbsand

      You know why. Super Bowl is over, the talking heads gotta throw pasta against the wall.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      What are you, tryna bond with Greg?

    • noonefromtampa

      What, the odds are really high right for Bruce to pull that off (really less than 1%)?
      — Daily Dumb Redskins Fan and Sport Reporters who need click bait

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        – Joel Corry (fixed it)

    • mike5790

      it could happen, not sure what the % chance of it actually happening would be

      but it would all have to do with another Team or four wanting to get this done before any real or fake Free Agency begins. And the spectrum of Free Agency begins Feb 13th. Goes from your own team, to FTville, to legal tampering, to then full Free Agency.

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      Drugs, Danny, drugs.

  • btg

    Curious if Jacksonville tags Robinson

    • Lbsand

      Yeah, me too. Pretty bad injury he’s recovering from though.

      • btg

        Acl injuries are not what they used to be

        • Lbsand

          Agreed. Still, he plays a ‘speed and quickness’ position so there’s always risk.

        • Different_Cat

          Unfortunately most players still don’t regain their full strength until the second year after the injury, so he’ll probably have a down year in ’18.

    • mike5790

      I just don’t know that he’s the vet leader WR I’d be looking for. He’s got the measureables obviously and CAN put up numbers…

      doesn’t feel like he’s the driven Garcon type lead by example WR the young guys need here

      • btg

        Who’s the young guys that you are speaking of?
        Crowder and Grant are going into their fourth years
        Doc into his third

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          My guy is stepping on to the roster this year 🙂

  • mike5790

    Feb 13th: Beginning at 12 noon, New York time, NFL clubs may begin to sign players whose 2017 CFL contracts have expired. Players under contract to a CFL club for the 2018 season or who have an option for the 2018 season are not eligible to be signed.

    Getting something done before Feb 13th would actually be a bonus for Kirk, though Minnesota (as example) does not have to sign one of their QBs immediately.

    This is when the window opens for Brown and Breeland.

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      ..

  • MJ45

    When is the window to franchise tag someone? When can it be rescinded?

    • Lbsand

      Can’t rescind once its signed.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      March 6th – ?

      • mike5790

        Feb 20th

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Feb 20th – March 6th

    • mike5790
      • MJ45

        Great, thanks.

    • MJ45

      I was just thinking that maybe the FO would want to tag Cousins in the event KC backs out of Smith deal.

      • Josh RosenSquinns

        Tag deadline ends before FA begins.

        KC won’t back out. First, would do long term damage to organization. Second, they got a great deal for AS.

      • Lbsand

        I’m thinking the Chiefs are praying the skins don’t back out.

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      Feb. 20: First day for teams to use franchise or transition tag.

      March 6: Deadline (4 p.m.) for teams to use franchise or transition tag.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        There it is

  • Lbsand

    So we might have a new spending bill soon that increases the debt? Stunner.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      What, did Pelosi finally stroke out?

      • Lbsand

        No idea. But ‘bi-partisan’ bill that made it out of the Senate.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Yeah, she was doing her best to fuck that up.

          • Lbsand

            No doubt she want more more more for her parties special interests. You know, ‘negotiating’. We The f’n People…

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Shumer was playing ball, from what I gather. These hard right and left mushrooms have got to go.

    • mike5790

      I doubt it makes it through the House as is.

      They’ll prob re-open the gov Monday.

  • Different_Cat

    Rick was right about the fur coats.

    https://twitter.com/JOEL9ONE/status/961571153956474880

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      24 muskrats died to make that coat. Sad

    • mike5790

      I don’t know what any of this means.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        It means Chris Long is an animal murdering sonofabitch.

    • Lbsand

      He’s heading off to the Iditarod afterwards.

    • Different_Cat

      Looks like a fur bathrobe.

    • kon, for now

      Why is Chris Long wearing a wash mitt?

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Sham Wow!

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      i was joking with my wife the other day about how i want one of those “night watchman” coats from game of thrones.

  • AustinSkin

    Meanwhile at the National Prayer Breakfast:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DlNF_ukr0I

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      who pays for the national prayer breakfast?

      • mike5790

        The Russians!

        • kon, for now

          Damn Russians. They’re everywhere.

          • mike5790

            there are some old people in the hot tub on Saturday mornings.
            every other day it’s usually dominated by Asian nationals.
            but these old people, aren’t speaking Yiddish or German sometimes broken English. methinks the Russians ARE everywhere. maybe the Russian mob, dunno.
            there are a couple of early early 20’s women who aren’t going to win a beauty contest, but they’re pretty enough, take 1 lane up in the pool and do like almost synchronized swimming– they have Olympic style bodies. and that language is E European if not Russian. They ARE everywhere. I suspect the girls are there to make sure they keep US spies away from the old men who are meeting up in the hot tub and sauna on Saturday mornings. But they (the chicks and the old men) speak freely in front of me, prob obviously knowing that I don’t speak Russian.
            I assume that any man that responds to their Russian, the women seduce, take back to their G Mason area apartment, and then have them chopped up and taken out in small suitcases.
            I’ve seen it a HUNDRED times.

          • kon, for now
      • mike5790

        is Carson Wentz the keynote?

      • mike5790
        • walter_in_fallschurch

          lovely. who pays for it?

          • mike5790

            the cost analysis, as always, prob depends on your political view

            if you view any and all costs for security of the POTUS and Congressmen as part of the cost, then the gov prob pays a lot, but not unlike if say, the POTUS wanted to go to Target to pick up some socks and peanut butter. sounds like the rest of it is paid for by a non-profit via donations. so, it’s tax free!

      • noonefromtampa

        paid thru prayer donations

  • btg

    CT made some comments on KC and what his true intentions were

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      did he say something about money?

    • kon, for now
      • mike5790

        Kirk Cousins 2.0: Kirk Goes Gangsta

      • HTTRsince65

        All of you who are criticizing cousins or any NFL player for that matter, for trying to get as much money as possible, are real naive.

        • kon, for now

          kwit yer troll’n

        • mike5790

          realize though, that the illusion that game (in this case, the NFL) is a replacement, a simulation, a facsimile of something ancient and deep within us all, is hurt by free agency. these are our warriors. these are our archers. the OL are the shield wall. and we don’t trust mercenaries any farther than we can **** them.

          • kon, for now

            I can **** pretty far

          • HTTRsince65

            Teams aren’t loyal to players so why should players be loyal? The good old days where players played for 1 team, maybe 2 but it was rare, have been long gone. Cousins may well have wanted to be a Redskin, but he wants to be paid. I don’t see anything wrong with that. This is the NFL of the last couple decades.

        • Josh RosenSquinns

          Not naive. I completely get it and understand it. But, that doesn’t mean I have to like it. I want a QB leader on this team that wants to be a Redskin. Some pride in being a Redskins. Someone who wants to take the team to the next level. That’s part of a team mentality.

          Cousins is a mercenary. He wants every penny he can get. Completely get it. But I don’t like him. Says he wants to be a Redskin, but then doesn’t even make a counter offer. He’s a fraud. Again, I understand – NFL and team would screw him over in a minute.

    • MJ45

      This is what I thought was odd: “Thompson also made clear he enjoyed playing with Cousins and that the quarterback talked about how good their pairing could be in the future.”. In the future? When cousins finally lands somewhere is he going to try to poach CT from us?

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Or, Kirk thought his kitty was really that special.

      • walter_in_fallschurch

        i think we can pretty much throw anything cousins has said out the window.

  • AustinSkin

    When you brag about buying on a dip

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVblu7QW4AEDXHB.jpg

  • walter_in_fallschurch

    my lovely wife, bless her heart, was charged with watching our friend’s 2 kids, ages 1 and 4, for 4 days last thur-sun. on saturday she took them to “the busy bee”, at the wilston shopping center at rt 50 and patrick henry drive. it is some sort of chuckie-cheese-like, indoor playground thing for kids. while there she saw sarah huckabee sanders with her 3 kids. she said sarah looked even more unhappy than she does when defending trump lies at briefings.

    • HTTRsince65

      I think hell has frozen over because now liberals used to be Defenders of all people and freedoms are critical of a woman’s appearance and they don’t even pretend to hide it

      • walter_in_fallschurch

        i find her repulsive. that’s allowed, right? i can be repulsed by what people say?

        as far as the busy bee thing, i’m not commenting on her “prettiness”, but on her unhappiness. it is incredibly stressful watching children at one of those places. my wife said it was like “lord of the flies” in there.

        • HTTRsince65

          how are you measuring her happiness? I know many people, men and women alike, who are very happy people but they have resting b**** face.
          I’m not saying that mrs. Sanders has that, but I think you need to consider how you measure someone’s happiness especially someone you don’t know.

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            well… then, charitably, she has RBF.

        • Different_Cat

          Conservatives are obviously sensitive about how deplorable they’ve been, right? You didn’t insult Sanders’ appearance at all — just mentioned that she looked unhappy.

          “She’s obviously unattractive … why aren’t you hurling sexist abuse at her the way we do — constantly — at Pelosi, Hillary, Feinstein, and every other female Democrat?!”

      • walter_in_fallschurch

        oh, and, hypocrisy, much? how many insults did hillary clinton endure about her ankles and her hair and what the fuck ever physical characteristics republicans have insulted her about for years and years and years. the fact that you say, “now liberals ….are critical of a woman’s appearance” somehow implies that it’s ok and even SOP for republicans to do that?!?!

    • Lbsand

      Great place to go to catch the flu. Second only to an elementary school cafeteria.

  • HTTRsince65

    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
    -Epicurus

    • kon, for now

      Whoa whoa there Epicurus. The lord works in mysterious ways. So I’m told.

      • HTTRsince65

        I’m just stirring the pot, bored this morning

        • mike5790

          that reminds, me… leftover stew in fridge, with some butter toast… make a mighty fine breakfast

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      logically speaking, god cannot be omniscient, omnipotent and and good. pick any 2 you like, but given reality, he can’t be all 3.

    • mike5790

      if their is purpose, and free will, then perhaps “evil” must exist

      the flaw in any of this thought is if there is a God, and he is the Judeo-Christio-Islamic type of God, then his lens is eternity, and THAT changes EVERYTHING. Completely different context. Any suffering here is highly discounted.

      and if there is no God or gods or vague Creator, and it is just mother nature, then much of what we see as evil is merely a natural pragmatic, its necessity to keep balance and sustainability. in this case then, WE are ALL and completely evil. we have destroyed the balance, and are certainly not “naturally” sustainable in any way.

      in both cases then, it is our desire for self that is the evil. evil IS everyone doing only what they want to do for their own gain and enjoyment. if there is an Evil, a Satan, or a Devil, it is not that he wants what worldly minds think of as evil, his goal is to let each of us to be his/her own god. just like he want(s) wanted for himself or if you don’t Believe, just like his Falling myth teaches.

      • kon, for now

        All things are relative. Except when they’re not.

  • kon, for now

    Need to close the ISS page. That music is dangerous.

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      Information is not knowledge.
      Knowledge is not wisdom.
      Wisdom is not truth.
      Truth is not beauty.
      Beauty is not love.
      Love is not music.
      Music is THE BEST.
      -FZ

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Frank only says that because it’s his medium.

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          well… the funny part is how everything in the sequence is proceeding philosophically appropriately, then it goes kinda off the rails with “love is not music”, then it goes totally emotional/personal with “music is the best”.

          it’s a quote by “mary” from joe’s garage.

          and yes, music was his medium. he could paint any song with any sort of “eyebrows” to change the feel of it. just genius, imo.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Yes

      • kon, for now

        Zappa’s going to be doing a live tour soon. His first since he died 25 years ago.

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          you kid, but his kid, dweezil, does do tours. i saw frank 6 times. i’ve seen 5 or so dweezil shows. dweezil totally “gets” what frank was doing. and, my favorite part is that dweezil does not try to improve or modernize the music. he is a technician, and a very skilled guitarist, who tries to faithfully reproduce what frank did.

          • kon, for now
          • walter_in_fallschurch

            kon,
            thanks! i think i kinda might have heard something about that. it’s funny that it’s his other son,ahmet, who appears to be in charge here. all those past members they mention who are involved is a great list of of musicians who “got it”.

            i will go to that if it comes anywhere near here.

    • HTTRsince65

      Huh?

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Plus, it’s addicting to watch.

      • kon, for now

        ikr

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Is the entire arm powered electrically, or are there hydraulics/pneumatics? I’m dying to know what that is in the center of the coupling. The diagram doesn’t specify.

  • kon, for now

    It’s called the Latching End Effector or, LEE

    After 16 years of service, the LEE had been replaced recently. Just days ago.

    http://spaceflight101.com/iss-expedition-45/wp-content/uploads/sites/39/2015/10/45EVA-4.jpg

    https://spaceq.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/canadarm2_latching_end_effector.jpg

  • kon, for now

    Bitmoji put out a hamster wheel moji. Too funny.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    “My FIXD scanner says that I only have one blown head gasket from driving my car while it was overheated, don’t you get any slick ideas about ripping me off, Cooter, cause I know stuff! I know words!”

  • kon, for now

    I went to check out Fixd.

    My antivirus app blocked it and said the website is a known phishing site.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Lol

  • HTTRsince65

    Happy Thursday!

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Hpy Hpy

      • AustinSkin

        Heyo

  • kon, for now

    Enough of this winter nonsense

    Good thing there’s hot coffee

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      3″ of rain coming over the weekend.

      • kon, for now

        Great

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Not really, I’d settle for 1.5″

          • kon, for now

            Said no woman ever

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Don’t start up with me today, this damn mountain is already a mudslide.

          • HTTRsince65

            Which mountain do you live on BC?

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            The big one.

          • kon, for now

            Well, maybe D_C’s

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            He’s into the cub scout thing, said as much yesterday.

          • HTTRsince65

            That’s what I have to do!
            -Mrs. D. Cat

  • SCamp

    Georgia Tech students taking the guesswork out of your check engine light… and the extra charges out of your wallet:
    http://www.studylifestyle.com/2017/FIXD/43/?sxid=21qlmwq22lql&cid=308&utm_term=msn-msn

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      That’s a great idea. I have a scanner but it costs around $300 for a good one.

    • kon, for now

      They’ll still charge $70 to plug in their own scanner to confirm the codes thrown.

      Those things used to be huge. Size of a car. Practically.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      SCamp walks into NAPA, “I need a IAC valve, a CPS sensor, a O² sensor, some kind of charcoal thingy, and a bank 2 spark coil….I think”

    • mike5790

      can you ping the computer to reprogram the eprom? you know, add about 20 HP to the engine, maybe slightly alter the auto trans programming?

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Only the Brave.

    I remember watching these guys work through my binoculars up by Strawberry Lake, Northeast of Provo, Utah. I was on a job in Provo and we drove up the canyon into the mountains one day to Strawberry Lake. They were digging a fire line on the southern slope of the ridge directly west of the lake. The helicopters were hovering and pumping water out of the lake, then flying over to the ridge just beyond them and dumping water on the fire. I sat up there for at least 3 hours watching them dig, yellow shirts and all. These men possess what all men should strive to have at least a little of, courage and the will to do what is necessary for the greater good. The temperature was about 102° and dry as a bone. You gotta be a tough sonofabitch to hang in those elements.

    Minus the clichés injected by Hollywood, this is a great movie and based on the true story of the Yarnell Hill fire that happened in the end of June, 2013, outside of Yarnell, Arizona.

  • kon, for now
    • SCamp

      Whelp… looked like it would have been fun to watch… if it wasn’t blocked

    • kon, for now

      Don’t know why they’d not want other websites to have playback…(I even used the share they give on the page)

      but if ya click the youtube button, it comes up.

    • kon, for now

      Someone’s working on the station’s arm atm.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Check out how the plugs look.

        • kon, for now

          Yea. The up close shot of the coupler is cool.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Looked kinda like the guts to a check valve in the center.

        • kon, for now

          That some sort of fleece lined bag? Looks cozy.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Lol, they’re over Siberia? Canada?

        • kon, for now

          Selfie!

          One of ours too!

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Another selfie USA

          • kon, for now

            There’s two of them out there

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Three?

  • kon, for now
    • SCamp

      That’s pretty cool

  • mike5790

    St Johns has been an up and down basketball team this year… but in back to back games they’ve beaten #4 Duke and #1 Villanova

  • SCamp

    I see that recruit who’s mom was wearing an Alabama hoody and Tennessee beenie picked Florida. Pretty funny to see him pick the one of the three hats his mom was NOT sporting.

    Dysfunction

  • SCamp

    D_C… you really cited VOX? I mean, really!?!?!

    • Different_Cat

      Ad hominem, per usual? The article provides sources for the data they cite. I don’t see any reason to question their sources, do you?

      • SCamp

        Yes… anything by Vox is highly questionable. It’s about as far left as it gets.

        • Different_Cat

          Is there ANY source you consider legitimate? I mean, that isn’t flamingly right wing? I mean, you don’t consider the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, etc., to be legitimate news sources, so….?

          Regarding the article I cited, it relies on data from the Social Security Administration and the non-partisan Institute on Taxation and Public Policy.

          • SCamp

            It’s cute you think so.

          • Different_Cat

            Typical SCamp punt.

          • SCamp

            Typical D_C cherry pick stats in a vain attempt to back up something in which he has no clue.

            Still cute…

          • Different_Cat

            Usually if you want to prove someone is cherry picking you would offer up conflicting stats from a trusted source. You don’t do that, because you’ve got your preconceived idea and you have no interest in being educated on the subject.

  • kon, for now

    I want to investigate Scully’s x-file.

  • noonefromtampa

    up to 27 mocks tracked

    Site #13
    ESPN – Kiper Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
    nfl.com – Jeremiah Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
    B/R – Roling Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
    Justin Rogers Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
    Landof10.com Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
    B/R – Rapp Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
    nfl.com – Reuter Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
    B/R – Miller Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
    Sports Day Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
    nfldraftscout.com – Brugler Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
    SB Nation – Clintclearwater Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
    SBNation – Kadar Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
    Walter Football – Walter Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
    Walter Football – Charlie Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
    B/R – Sobleski Derwin James, S, Florida State
    B/R – Moton Derwin James, S, Florida State
    Draft Wire Derwin James, S, Florida State
    USA Today – Middlehurst-Schwartz Derwin James, S, Florida State
    Pro Football Focus James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
    nfl.com – Brooks Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
    Hogs Haven – Tyler Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
    Sporting News Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
    ESPN – McShay Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
    NBC Sports – Standig Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
    CBS Sports Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
    San Diego Union-Tribune Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
    B/R – McCrystal Vita Vea, DT, Washington
    nfl.com – Zierlein Vita Vea, DT, Washington

    • noonefromtampa

      Payne 7 times and Ridley 5

      • SCamp

        Another 1st round WR?

        Oh for fucks sake

        • mike5790

          This time it’s going to work out, I just know it!

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Sobleski for President!

  • Rick Deez

    “Get Out” is on.

    deuces

  • Zig-Zag_BC
  • Rick Deez
    • SCamp

      Ordacity

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Dax Hollifield

  • kon, for now

    Brando and Richard Pryor were on the DL?

    Ehh

  • SCamp
    • Rick Deez

      Sure I’d love to, personally. A joke is a joke, but when a person’s life or livelihood are effected then it’s not funny.

      • SCamp

        Offending someone affects their livelihood?

        Must be a millenial

        • Rick Deez

          Some people can’t separate art and life Scamp.

          • SCamp

            Some people need mental bubble wrap

  • HTTRsince65

    Jessica Tarlov has the worst case of vocal fry I think I’ve ever heard. Nauseating!

  • noonefromtampa

    RIP Veteran actor Mickey Jones, whose face can be recognized from many film and television roles, has died at 76

  • Rick Deez

    Switching back to football… the Kirk “hive” won’t admit it, but it IS quite telling that teammates have been silent on Kirk so far. Chris Thompson’s comments were telling today.

    • SCamp

      Noticed he specifically mentioned money

      • Rick Deez

        Yup

    • HTTRsince65

      players that will be there this year aren’t going to stick their necks out to have their heads chopped off to criticize the front office. Come on Rick you’re smarter than that. How about the defensive players for the Broncos that had High Praise and desire for him to join them?

      • Rick Deez

        Some criticized the Fuller trade.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Amen

        • HTTRsince65

          Swearinger is very outspoken. But then the next day he issued an apology and took back a lot of what he said. Players have to be careful about what they say. Teams are not loyal to Player’s at all and that’s why I do not begrudge players trying to get as much money as possible for their very short careers!

          • Different_Cat

            He didn’t actually apologize or take anything back, as far as I could tell. He just said what’s done is done and the team will forge ahead.

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            also, he was not upset by kirk’s leaving. it was fuller that set him off.

  • Rick Deez

    Let me share a brief story of why I am not a “flaming” liberal. One of the biggest “hustles” is that if your child has an IEP (special ed.) you actually get a check from the state because your child has a disability. Many parents don’t want to remove their kids from special ed. because the checks will stop.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Wasn’t that a Stealth bomber, an Apache gunship and a M1A1 main battle tank sitting on the National Mall in 1993? It’s been awhile, so…. maybe there was a F-16 also?

    • SCamp

      There’s an SR-71 sitting outside the colosseum in LA

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Bill Clinton’s first inauguration .

    • kon, for now

      That’s parade rest though.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Sure, I got 10 feet from it, then walked down to the tent where Woody Harrison was playing the song he wrote for Bill.

  • Rick Deez

    I don’t like anyone who abuses “the system”.

    • SCamp

      Hey… illegals don’t get Federal freebees so you can’t dislike them…

      • Different_Cat

        If that’s your criteria then you should applaud them, because they pay much more into the federal government than they ever receive back. They help fund our social security system, which they can never benefit from unless they become citizens.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          o0

        • SCamp

          Then ones I know are paid cash under the table and use PLENTY of federal services

          …so false.

          But hey, what would I know right? I’m only in 2 of the most illegal friendly industries i in arguably the most illegal friendly and illegal populated area in the whole country.

          • Different_Cat

            Unless you know all 10 or 11 million of them, the ones you know doesn’t mean a whole lot. It’s estimated that undocumented immigrants pay between $13 – $17 billion in taxes annually, between income, withholding sales, property, etc. About half actually file anonymous returns because they hope they’ll eventually gain legal status, at which point they can prove they’ve paid taxes. It’s estimated that they pay, on average, a higher effective tax rate than citizens with equivalent incomes.

            https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/17/15290950/undocumented-immigrants-file-tax-returns

          • SCamp

            But my experience directly contradicts your assertion…

            So there’s that.

  • HTTRsince65

    Martha MacCallum, how old do you think she is?

    • HTTRsince65

      54

  • kon, for now

    It’s the 21st century, save the dick-waving for real war and just cast a hologram of military personnel and hardware.

    • Rick Deez

      kon with the STRONG post ! LOL

    • HTTRsince65

      Why not do that with all institutions like Congress and Supreme Court hell even the president. why stop with just the military?

      • SCamp

        I’d be good with that for Congress for sure

      • Different_Cat

        Did I miss the big federal judiciary parade?

        • SCamp

          Yes… it was last Wednesday

        • HTTRsince65

          I like the idea of using Holograms to replace the idiots that are currently there and artificial intelligence. Certainly couldn’t be worse than who’s there now

  • Rick Deez

    See Scamp… 🙂 you have me pegged all wrong. If there was a viable Republican candidate that I could align myself with I would vote for him/her. Democrats have taken my vote for granted for years.

    • SCamp

      So… did you stand up to the Democrats for taking your vote for granted?

      • Rick Deez

        Got damn right…I tell all my black, lifelong Democrats that all the time. I mean…I was insulted when Hillary Clinton made a video in a barbershop with hot sauce in her purse.

        • HTTRsince65

          Texas pete!

          • Rick Deez

            LOL…yeah

          • HTTRsince65

            Its my fav

        • SCamp

          Just as long as you haven’t voted for them for at least a decade…

          I would say that if you think they are taking you for granted… yet still ONLY vote Democrat… then you’re a Democrat. Party line voting is lockstep thinking

        • Different_Cat

          Insulted? Hillary always gets her shave at a barber shop!

          • SCamp

            But only her back

          • Different_Cat

            Brazilian

          • SCamp

            I just threw up

          • HTTRsince65

            FDAU! Lol

          • HTTRsince65

            Her lawn care company uses their hedge trimmers on her

  • Different_Cat

    First of all, courts have determined that drug testing welfare recipients violates the 4th Amendment. Second, states that implemented such programs found that, one, the produced very few positive test results (a lower rate then the estimated 10% of Americans who use drugs), and two, the programs cost more money than they saved.

    “Florida passed the measure in 2011, and the case was being closely watched by several other states, including Georgia, which passed similar legislation in 2013 but found it dogged by legal challenges. State data in Florida also showed that the measure produced few results. Only 108 out of 4,086 people tested — 2.6 percent — were found to have been using narcotics. State records showed that the requirement cost more money to carry out than it saved.”

  • smokey

    As for me, I say “speak softly, and carry a big stick.”

    We don’t need all the hoopla. Some flyovers of jets, Apaches and colors guard would suffice.

    • SCamp

      Few drones… maybe a sub chugging down the road

  • Lbsand

    I’d much prefer they put the ‘parade’ money into the VA and other veteran programs.

    • kon, for now

      The money spent making a military parade happen, could grow a shit-ton of cannabis for disabled veterans whom are suffering a myriad of ailments.

  • noonefromtampa

    I loved military parades!
    — Cpl Adolph Hitler 1918

  • Rick Deez

    Scamp…and I mean this respectfully, you’d rather argue than agree. I’ve seen many of your posts over the years and depending upon who says it, you seek the argument.

    • Different_Cat

      Of course. He actually started out saying the parade was a stupid idea. Then libbies agreed with him so he had to change his tune.

    • SCamp

      You should probably read my post directly below. I’m not for military parades… but for completely different reason than you guys. If we didn’t have a HUGE debt problem I would be all for them.

      • Different_Cat

        Cost was the main reason I cited in my first post on the subject.

        • SCamp

          I musta missed that. All I saw was a bunch of people screaming Hitler and Communists!!!

          • Different_Cat

            Different_Cat Steve Thomas • an hour ago
            Sure, nothing wrong with wasting tens of millions of dollars and disrupting the lives of thousands of people for a pointless display of aggression.

          • SCamp

            It was the pointless display of aggression point you made that stood out. I agree with you on the money issue.

          • Rick Deez

            You agree?

          • SCamp

            With the waste of money while we are in a huge amount of debt yes. I DON’T agree that it is a sign of aggression. I would see it more as pride in our service members and military. The disruption of 1000’s of lives is just a absurd statement that doesn’t even deserve my time.

      • Rick Deez

        But you automatically go “party lines”. You assume I am liberal, when I’m really all about kindness, empathy and respect. Are there no conservatives that think that way?

        • Different_Cat

          Right, and because you’re a liberal (supposedly) it automatically follows that you must hate the military.

          • SCamp

            I never said liberals hate the military… that was others points.

        • SCamp

          Rick, no one here will ever mistake you for anything other than a liberal. Sorry.

          • Rick Deez

            ….even though I’m not, that’s okay, but I notice, that most anything I say NOT sports related you IMMEDIATELY put me in some political box.

          • SCamp

            You put yourself there bud… always have. You immediately attack anything not liberal. It’s pretty easy to peg you.

            The ONLY thing you have ever come across even remotely conservative is your dislike of the abuse of the welfare system.

          • Rick Deez

            2. undocumented immigrants
            3. set asides

          • SCamp

            Well, mea culpa. I didn’t know you were a card carrying conservative. I apologize for pinning you with that giant government loving liberal movement. I’m sure the Republicans will count on your vote in the near future.

            I have a better idea… vote third party

  • SCamp

    Let’s play “Let’s Make A Deal”

    The ONLY issue I have with a proposed Military Parade is the cost…

    So IF the Pentagon can find the $800 million dollars it lost I would be all for letting them spend some of it to roll tanks down Pennsylvania.

    My whole family is either military or military contractors. Will always support them 100%… but we gotta get this $20T debt under control. It’s a HUGE threat to this country

    • Different_Cat

      Cancel eight F-35s. Problem solved. I’m sure a parade will keep us safer than advanced fighter jets.

      • SCamp

        Refuse to give social services to able bodied people who refuse to work, people who test positive for drug use and aren’t in active treatment and illegals… BAM!

        • Different_Cat

          Pretty sure we already have work requirements, and illegals aren’t entitled to social services. Also, positive drug tests are far less common among SNAP applicants than they are among the general population.

          • SCamp

            It’s funny you think that

          • Different_Cat

            It’s sad but not surprising that you don’t know that.

          • SCamp

            It’s sad that you believe that

  • the_amazing_spiderman

    when you leave for a meal break and check-in on the thehogsty and politics are being debated…
    https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsafLARURaDBBtu/giphy.gif

    • Sean

      We’re generally going to take a more laid back attitude towards moderating than other sites (unless there are complaints). That said, we as moderators are going to stop commenting on that sort of thread.

      • SCamp

        …unless you’re Steve

        • Sean

          Haha it’s going to take an effort on all our parts. We’re hamsters too after all.

          • SCamp

            It’s all good. I generally appreciate his take… although we don’t always agree.

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        just to be clear… I think it’s funny

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Don’t stop commenting, we’ve been told the rules about personal attacks.

    • Different_Cat

      Break the glass on the emergency Kirk Cousins trade box!!

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      RIP BAM

  • SCamp

    Military parade… hmmm

    We already have a fleet week in San Fran. Parades are fun… but why waste the money?

    No thanks…

    • Steve Thomas

      DoD looks at those type of things as great recruiting events (because they are). They are willing to do things like flybys (which they plan for and have a process to manage, and for which they sometimes make the civilian entity requesting the flyby pay for), and participate in things like fleet week, for precisely that purpose. It’s a great thing, not a waste.

      It’s also viewed by DoD as a way to let the American people see their military, which is good for community relations, unless it’s a bunch of hopeless liberals.

      • Rick Deez

        It’s horrible

        • SCamp

          I’d say that’s quite a stretch Rick. Sounds like a partisan hit job.

          • Rick Deez

            Partisan my ass. It’s stupid. You don’t live in D.C. Big ass tanks (if that’s what it will be) on Constitution Ave. C’mon dude….it just doesn’t make sense.

          • SCamp

            A lot of things government does doesn’t make sense… if that’s the criteria we’re in steep shit.

            Also, not sure you have some sort of formal right to DC just cuz you live there…

          • Rick Deez

            Not at all…I just know the infrastructure of the city…it’s logistical

          • SCamp

            I know DC plenty well… and if they can have million people marches they can have military parades…

        • Steve Thomas

          Well, I spent the first 42 years of my life around it, so I think it’s far, far, far from horrible. I very much miss having aircraft fly over my house every day.

          • Rick Deez

            I’m not talking about that. I like flyovers at games….missles and heavy artillery on a city street in peace time is just dumb and unnecessary…Now, if you wanna do a military appreciation parade, I’m down with that.

          • SCamp

            Peace time? What country do you live in?

          • HTTRsince65

            that is how out-of-touch the average citizen is with our current military. Less than 1% of the population serve. Perhaps that’s part of the problem

          • Steve Thomas

            Having had to plan alot of airshows and participated in things like community parades, etc., I seriously doubt that anyone is going to move the 3rd Infantry Division into downtown DC. That’d be too difficult, logistically and expensive. There’s a way to do a parade in DC without tying up significant amounts of airlift and resources.

            But I personally would love to see some armor on display in a parade.

          • SCamp

            I, too, have spent the first 43 years of my life around tit

          • SCamp

            It’s one of the great loves of my life

          • kon, for now

            I know a development in the flight path of Love Field that will cure you of that in a matter of days.

          • Steve Thomas

            No way.

        • the_amazing_spiderman
        • HTTRsince65

          Rick,
          what would you propose to protect our country?

          • SCamp

            Slap fights

          • Different_Cat

            Is a parade protecting our country?

          • SCamp

            If it is directly responsible for recruiting increases then yes.

          • Different_Cat

            That might true if we were having trouble recruiting, but I don’t think that’s the case. Also, I’m not sure “because I saw a cool parade” is the motivation we should be selecting for.

          • SCamp

            Hey… kids love the military… a parade might help that along.

    • Rick Deez

      Interesting point made on the radio…a parade with tanks and missles looks like a dictatorship.

      • SCamp

        So… France looks like a dictatorship?

        • Rick Deez

          France looks like France.

          • SCamp

            Deep

        • Different_Cat

          I know Trump said France, because what else was he going to say, but when you think of military parades I’m sure 99% of the population thinks of Russia, NK, and China … not France.

          • SCamp

            I typically think of Veterans Day parades… nothing that any other country does.

          • Different_Cat

            How many Veterans Day parades include tanks and missiles on display?

          • SCamp

            Hopefully all of them in the near future

          • Steve Thomas

            Not enough.

            Some of those type of parades have local units participate, and they sometimes bring equipment along as a display.

            It no different whatsoever than having a B-52 in display at an airshow.

            Don’t be afraid of the U.S. military. It’s there to defend the country.

          • Different_Cat

            I’m not afraid of the military. I just think it’s wasteful and sends a bad message.

          • HTTRsince65

            so are we supposed to dumb down everything to the least common denominator or lowest-common-denominator rather? F*** that

          • Different_Cat

            How do you think we got to this point, Chief?

      • HTTRsince65

        Only to those unpatriotic Americans that are looking to denigrate our national institutions.

        • Different_Cat

          National institutions like the FBI????

          • HTTRsince65

            Hoover’s heroes?

          • Different_Cat

            Amazing, ain’t it? Law and order conservatives lining up to bash our country’s preeminent law enforcement agency (not to mention CIA and NSA) because they have the audacity to investigate something that clearly needs investigating. Only to turn around and accuse others of being unpatriotic for attacking our institutions? WOW

  • walter_in_fallschurch
  • SCamp

    smokey • an hour ago
    6 hours into the Pelosi flapation

    ___________________

    Can you imagine having to listen to that screeching harpy for 8 hours?

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    If each party represented by Congress could banish one of the opposing party’s representatives, who would it be?

    • SCamp

      Only 1?

      Sheesh… I’d have to go with Maxine Waters for the Dems…

      Mitch McConnell for the Pubs

  • Rick Deez

    …busy day at work…just gettin’ here.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Hello Rick, good to see you.

      • Rick Deez

        Sir

    • Different_Cat

      You probably missed it. We traded Cousins to Cleveland for the 1st overall pick!

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        I actually missed that one.

      • mike5790

        then traded the 1st round pick to AZ for Larry Fitzgerald

        • the_amazing_spiderman

          …then Fitzgerald retired immediately

          • mike5790

            at least he did it before free agency

  • Zig-Zag_BC
    • the_amazing_spiderman

      where does she put all those carrots?

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Various options, today she’s mulching them.

  • smokey

    6 hours into the Pelosi flapation

    • Steve Thomas

      I hope she collapses.

  • AustinSkin
    • walter_in_fallschurch

      is that real? and, is that his scalp in the back??! what a weird kind of baldness. it’s like a wide reverse-mohawk.

      • Steve Thomas

        Newsflash. Man in his 70s has thinning hair. Details at 11.

        • Different_Cat

          That ain’t any normal kind of male pattern baldness. More like he had the hair from the back of his head transplanted onto the top of his head.

  • Different_Cat
    • btg

      Ha
      Not sure any one cares how smart they are

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Right, except D_C…

      • smokey

        Whoa. Nicely done.

  • Different_Cat

    The hits keep on coming … so to speak.

    “In the 24 hours before White House staff secretary Rob Porter resigned amid reports that he had been emotionally and physically abusive to two of his wives, the White House was ratcheting up a campaign in his defense.

    President Donald Trump’s chief of staff John Kelly and press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders pushed back on the accusations, advancing a narrative that Porter was not just an honorable person but also indispensable to the West Wing’s operations.

    By Wednesday morning, however, events had begun overtaking spin.”

    https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/961130828804902913

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      “emotionally and physically abusive to two of his wives”
      ————————

      jeez… how many wives and ex-wives are there?

  • Different_Cat
  • smokey

    Oldie but a goody:
    How the hell can a woman flap her jaws for an hour in an argument, but 2 minutes into a *J complains how her jaws hurt?

    • Different_Cat

      Only someone hung like a cub scout would ask that question.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        How would you know what a cub scout is “hung” like?

        • Different_Cat

          I WAS a cub scout, and I’m still wearing my Wolf Badge to prove it!

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Lol

      • smokey

        Ha.

  • Different_Cat

    Trump pushing hard for a Soviet-style military parade in Washington, because of course.

    • mike5790

      French

      • Different_Cat

        Yeah, that’s the ticket.

    • Steve Thomas

      Nothing wrong with a parade. It’s a great idea. All DoD needs to do is bring in a few units from all services, have a few flybys, let the army bring in a some motorized vehicles that are easily transportable and won’t tear up the streets. March down Constitution Ave. for a couple hours. It’d be a great recruiting tool. As an added bonus, liberals would hate it, because it’s the military being depicted in a positive light.

      • Different_Cat

        Sure, nothing wrong with wasting tens of millions of dollars and disrupting the lives of thousands of people for a pointless display of aggression.

        • Steve Thomas

          #1 – a parade like that would in no way cost tens of millions of dollars

          #2 – letting a couple thousand proud military service personnel march down the street, some of them with their professional equipment, is called patriotism, not a “pointless display of aggression”

          #3 – all sorts of things disrupt traffic in DC. The military would be the most worthwhile. If you don’t like disruption, tell the bikers not to show up on Memorial Day Weekend. Or tell the restaurants to stop doing that “Taste of DC” thing.

  • AustinSkin

    Another wild, whippy day on Wall Street. All major indices ran up nicely, but closed in the red.

    • btg

      All the mutual funds I’m in finished in the black for the day
      So dilly dilly

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Pelosi is a horse’s ass.

    • btg

      No argument here

    • smokey

      What’s wrong BC? You don’t go for women that can flap their jaws for 5 hours?

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        I’m wondering when the Democrats finally put her out to pasture.

      • Different_Cat

        As far as BC’s concerned it’s all academic after 5 seconds.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          It’s really hurting your feelings, this Pelosi bashing.

    • Different_Cat

      Sure, but not as big an ass as Ryan.

    • AustinSkin

      She’s a fine, upstanding citizen, and you should start crafting your heartfelt apology post-haste.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        I gave the Monks the day off, me and those girls from the Darwin Award tweet are kickin’ it in the Scriptorium, Pelosi is SOL.

    • kon, for now
      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Bravo!

  • Different_Cat

    Josh RosenSquinns mike5790 • 32 minutes ago
    Yeah, I don’t think any teams other than the Pats will work with McDaniels for quite some time. That is just a move you don’t make in a small industry like that.
    —————
    Y’all know he’s only staying in NE because he was promised the HC job when BB retires, right? No other way to explain it.

    So he doesn’t give a crap what other teams think about him.

    • the_amazing_spiderman

      Until his ass is fired for back to back losing seasons!

      • mike5790

        at that point his HC record would have two poor performances on it and prob doesn’t get another HC job anyway

      • smokey

        …then he will become the Skins HC. kidding

      • Different_Cat

        Yeah, but he’s already hosed if that happens.

  • Big Buck64
    • Zig-Zag_BC

      I’m so jealous right now… – Kirk

  • smokey

    Ant thoughts on Jamaal Charles reuniting with Smith in DC? Charles does want out of Denver and he averaged over 4 yards per carry in a limited role.

    • btg

      Older and best days are way in the past

    • mike5790

      Denver paid him 900,000 last year, with incentives and bonuses up to almost 1.5 million
      he’s 31, but at that price, could at least bring him in to camp on the 90 man, but that would assume they didn’t think a RB fit their draft board

    • Big Buck64

      Crowell in Cleveland is a guy that’s worth taking a look at . FA .

    • Steve Thomas

      I’d rather the team spend a high draft pick on a top-rated RB than bring in a guy like Jamaal Charles, who’s older.

  • btg

    BC, if OBrown is there in the fourth that’s a steal

    • mike5790

      unless he failed a drug test or punched a cop

      • btg

        Well then let’s start those rumors

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      I think so.

  • mike5790

    McDaniels agent quits, says “his word is his bond” and “McDaniels committed professional suicide”
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22356955/josh-mcdaniels-agent-bob-lamonte-quitting-colts-mess

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Who?

      • mike5790

        Bob LaMonte

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Fuck that guy!

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      Yeah, I don’t think any teams other than the Pats will work with McDaniels for quite some time. That is just a move you don’t make in a small industry like that.

    • the_amazing_spiderman
      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Woot!

    • Steve Thomas

      Of course, remember that this agent also represents the Colts’ GM, I believe, so by saying this publicly, he’s trying to protect that relationship.

  • btg

    Any thoughts on Orlando Brown Junior ?

    How about as a guard ?

    Also anyone have a stationary bike stand they recommend

  • Different_Cat
    • btg

      It all comes across to me as unnecessary drama
      Don’t burn bridges

      • alex35332

        Comes across like a parent who doens’t talk to their kid, didn’t know what state he was gonna go live in?

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      it’s like that raiders/chiefs jersey commercial where the mom walks away from the dinner table… love that commercial

  • btg

    RUSSELL WILSON traded to New York!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      no! really?!

      • btg

        Yes

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          eli does not scare me, but i don’t want to face wilson twice a year.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Why? That’s ridiculous.

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          not cool greg.

          • btg

            It wasn’t a lie

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        baseball…

        • btg

          Technically correct

          • mike5790

            I’m surprised a baseball team still had his rights

        • alex35332

          I thought they were bringing back the old New York Football Yankees.

  • Steve Thomas

    alex35332 Team Captain Different_Cat • 17 minutes ago
    I think it was 2 years ago I went through all the Redskins drafts going back to 1932, we’ve never once drafted a MLB/ILB in the first round.
    ___________________

    Everything you ever wanted to know about Redskins draft tendencies: http://www.thehogsty.com/2017/04/18/lets-talk-redskins-draft-tendencies/

    • alex35332

      Ha, you just went back to ’92.

      That’s easy.

      • Steve Thomas

        I presented my data to the world, though, which is much valuable.

        • alex35332

          Debatable 🙂

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      Lavar Arrington?

      • alex35332

        LaVar was an OLB/DE not an ILB/MLB. Was best rushing from the edge, hand in the dirt.

        • Josh RosenSquinns

          OK. Mis-remembering.

        • Different_Cat

          Disagree. Although he blitzed a lot, Lavar was a SLB in our 4-3 defense — not a DE.

    • btg

      I want to continue that tradition
      Bigger issues elsewhere

  • alex35332

    Interesting story int he post about a highly recruited college player who’s picking the Ivy League over playing in the SEC or PAC. Hard to argue with the logic that a degree from Princeton will look a lot better when going after jobs.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/02/07/meet-the-high-school-quarterback-who-chose-princeton-over-alabama/?utm_term=.32fbffc58be9

    • mike5790

      if you want to work in greater NYC, yes

      but there are some things that Ivy’s aren’t good at. One thing they ARE is network. If you are social and build an Ivy network, you’re in for sure. that is why you want to get an Ivy MBA if you get an MBA. everyone pretty much uses the same materials, but it is the people you meet. or so I’ve heard. I don’t have an MBA.

      • alex35332

        I understand he want’s to be the head of GE’s microwave division.

  • Zig-Zag_BC
    • walter_in_fallschurch

      omg… i forgot all about that.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Musk is the glowing green orb, Loc – Nar

  • walter_in_fallschurch

    “Zig-Zag_BC Back to the good ol daysBruce • 36 minutes ago
    Witch! He’s a Witch! Buuuuurrrrrrrrrnnnnnn hhhhhiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmm! – wif”
    ———————-

    haha… i guess. flu vaccine is especially important for kids and old people. regular vaccines are important for everyone.

  • alex35332

    @AdamSchefter
    Saints’ asst HC Dan Campbell will interview for Colts’ HC job Thursday, per source.

    • AustinSkin
      • alex35332

        NFL said Rooney Rule not required. Colts already interviewed a minority before Joshy McDbag

        • SCamp

          McDaniel cementing his d bag status so he can seamlessly follow in Bellichicks footsteps

          • alex35332

            The D-bag apple doesn’t fall far from the D-bag tree eh?

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            i wish that lyin’, cheatin’ d-bag were our coach.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Ikr – Kirk

          • SCamp

            You ain’t just whistlin’ Dixie there Walter

          • alex35332

            oh not saying his ability to coach is impacted by is ability to d-bag. If anything it improves it.

  • the_amazing_spiderman

    The Tesla Roadster is heading for the Astroid Belt.
    https://media.giphy.com/media/26DN6M87kbG5sJOLu/giphy.gif

    • alex35332

      Womp womp.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Heavy Metal rip-off

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        Nothing like that good ol’ plutonium nyborg

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      gotta admit, that was a pretty damn cool idea, however, minor error sends it millions of miles off track.

  • AustinSkin

    “Bitcoin will someday be worth as much as 40 times its current value”, says Cameron Winklevoss who owns a shitload of the cryptocurrency.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    “Ill take what pump-and-dump scam artists say for $1,000, Alex”

  • Different_Cat

    NFL DRAFTNFL Draft Tale of Tape | Roquan Smith vs Tremaine Edmunds
    https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl-draft-tale-of-tape-roquan-smith-vs-tremaine-edmunds/

    • kon, for now

      Do they have their shots?

    • mike5790

      Edmunds is more like Brown
      Roquan Smith is more like that Smith from the Jags (spacing his name)

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Except Tremaine can cover, so…………

        • mike5790

          I was thinking in terms of body type and athleticism

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Thank you for that. Long time coming.

    • btg

      Neither
      If I had my druthers
      LB is exponentially more effective with a great DL
      We’re still in progress of producing the great DL

      • mike5790

        def front 7 is sort of like the OL in my opinion, it’s a grouping

      • Different_Cat

        I don’t see much evidence to support that. For example, Dallas hasn’t been very good at DT, but Sean Lee has been a YUGE difference maker for them.

        But yeah, if there’s a DT who’s equal to or better than either of those guys you take him. If not, you go for the LB and address DT later on, or in FA.

    • alex35332

      I think it was 2 years ago I went through all the Redskins drafts going back to 1932, we’ve never once drafted a MLB/ILB in the first round.

      • Different_Cat

        Lavar was the equivalent of a 3-4 ILB.

  • smokey

    A flu bug, you know, when you get the shits and a fever for 24 or so hours? I had those, but a full-blown flu, not in years.

    • Big Buck64

      It’s all that dry air and hard liquor

      • smokey

        Aye,you may have a point.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Echinacea, garlic, water, whiskey, sweat, sleep. = speedy recovery

      • kon, for now

        Fermented foods. Especially cabbages.

        They’re loaded with beneficials that the gut uses to boost the immune system and knock out virus.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Yeah, though that’s a slow horse, while Echinacea won the derby.

          • kon, for now

            When you know there’s flu around, prevention wins the war.

            Red cabbage sauerkraut…scares the bejeebees out of virus. And at the same time, will go ahead and blow out anything that might be rotting away in your gut.

            Should prolly send a few jars to Buck.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            🙂 my sister out in Oregon makes that stuff.

    • mike5790

      that’s like the norovirus or whatever

      influenza has the fevers (and can have ****s and/or vomiting for some) and feels like bronchitis for like 2 days

    • kon, for now

      When it goes through that quickly, likely, it was food borne illness.

    • Lbsand

      Real, full blown influenza is a real bitch. I thought I had a the ‘flu’ a few times but once I really did, I knew I hadn’t. Sick as a dog.

  • Back to the good ol daysBruce

    Knock on wood. I have never received a flu vaccine and have never had the flu

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Witch! He’s a Witch! Buuuuurrrrrrrrrnnnnnn hhhhhiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmm! – wif

      • Big Buck64

        rubbing a voodoo doll , while speaking in tongues

      • Josh RosenSquinns

        No, he’s a ballerina!

    • alex35332

      Nor have I, at least not since I was a kid.

  • alex35332

    So, looking like no government shutdown, as long Chuck can get Nancy Pelosi to shut up.

    • Different_Cat

      The Orange Menace still needs to sign off.

      • alex35332

        I’m not gonna worry about ol’ spit bubbles on this one. He will blank check the thing.

      • Steve Thomas

        I pretty much love everything about what Trump is trying to do for the country; I just wish he’d stop tweeting and talking off-script.

        • Different_Cat

          We’re probably not going to agree on this. lol

          • Steve Thomas

            That’s okay.

    • Zig-Zag_BC
    • Steve Thomas

      Walking zombie-women are hard to shut up.

      And Chuck needs to shut up, too. He’s pretty much a net negative to society.

    • mike5790

      I’m less optimistic about the current deals being proposed. spend thrifts are not going to like it, especially until they see what kids of tax rolls come in over the next six months, I’d be shocked at a 2 year deal.

      • alex35332

        The argument being made about how the short term month to month CR’s for years on end it seems, has just wrecked government effectiveness, I can tell you it’s true first hand.

  • Josh RosenSquinns

    Mike Jones
    Verified account

    @Mike Jones
    7m7 minutes ago
    Just waiting for someone else to report something, so I can copy it and claim it as my own. Been doing that for years and it seems to be a relatively successful formula.

    • Different_Cat

      Uncharacteristically candid.

  • Big Buck64

    Next time I think I’m getting the flu , I’m gonna haul ass to northern Va and sneeze all over Walters mailbox

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      He’s totally safe, vaccinated and whatnot.

      • Big Buck64

        LoL

  • Different_Cat

    Center is one of the most important but least appreciated positions, IMO. Not a coincidence that 3 of the four conference championship teams had top-notch centers.

    https://twitter.com/PFF/status/961295252832374788

    • mike5790

      where did Elf rank?

      • Different_Cat

        No. 31. He’ll be in the top 10 soon, though.

        Long and Roullier tied at No. 19.

  • smokey

    All you other bastards in the world need your Anthrax vaccine!! I don’t want to be one of few alive after Al Qaeda gets their hands on it!!

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Rethink that proclamation?

  • Different_Cat

    Adam Schefter

    Verified account

    @AdamSchefter
    7m7 minutes ago
    More
    Colts are expected to request permission for HC interviews with Eagles OC Frank Reich and Saints asst HC Dan Campbell, per sources.
    ———————
    Be nice if they snag the Iggles OL coach.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Why?

      • Different_Cat

        Because he’s a damned good OL coach.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Are you a damn good Colts fan? Maybe that’s what’s up…

          • Different_Cat

            btg, is that you? 😉

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            I’m doing my best, lol

  • Josh RosenSquinns

    The effectiveness of the Flu vaccine is generally estimated to be somewhere around 30%. Effectiveness is measured as preventing you from getting the Flue at all. However, the Flue vacine can seriously reduce the severity of the flu, so even though that doesn’t fall into the “effectiveness” of the vaccine, it is still critically important.

    This could help explain why 80% of the deaths have been suffered by those who did not receive the vaccine.

    • the_amazing_spiderman

      You know what else is effective against the flu? Washing your damn hands and staying home when you have the flu.

      • Different_Cat

        Right?!
        -Boy in the plastic bubble

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          My immune system is super strong…

      • SCamp

        Suicide works as well

        • alex35332

          Only the 1st year you use it.

          • SCamp

            Keeps you from spreading it year after year

      • mike5790

        our household went round with it one weekend, I got a bad follow-on sinus infection. my wife went the pharmacy to get my script. she immediately brought home what we assume was a norovirus, lasted about 18 hours. we tried and tried to stay out of the public, and yet… boom.

        • the_amazing_spiderman

          No doubt… you have to go out in public for things like meds. That sucks man.

          I always have my children wash their hands when we get home from being out anywhere in public. And I myself also do this. It’s the only thing we can really do to give ourselves a chance to avoid catching these things.

          • mike5790

            I have a defiant 4 year old.

            When he gets sick, and mad, he’ll cough in your face. On Purpose. And he knows what he’s doing.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Spray him with tea tree oil.

    • mike5790

      without knowing what % total are vaccinated, we don’t know what 80% means

      if 80% of people did not receive the vaccine, then it is meaningless, but I assume the number of people who get it is higher than that; my wife is the only one in our household who did not get it. Anecdotally, she had the weakest case of illness, but that too could be meaningless.

  • Josh RosenSquinns

    walter_in_fallschurch the_amazing_spiderman • 39 minutes ago
    “imperfect” is a very basic christian tenet. we’re all imperfect… because…. adam.
    _________________

    See, still not my fault!

    -RGIII

  • walter_in_fallschurch

    i have no philosophical problem with ignorant parents not wanting to vaccinate their children. fine: opt out. also, opt them out of public schools, grocery stores, amusement parks and movie theaters, concerts, etc…

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Left field

      • walter_in_fallschurch

        53 kids have died of flu this season, so far. 80% were not vaccinated. you opt not to vaccinate, you are counting on everyone else vaccinating (herd immunity) to protect yourself/your child.

        • mike5790

          to be fair, the flu vaccine this year was like, 10% effective
          I mean, I got the flu vaccine and in a 10 day period had 3 instances of something (only 1 confirmed flu)

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            oh, please mike. is this like “compression waves”? way more than 10% effective. 80% of deaths were not vaccinated….

          • mike5790

            “A number of factors aligned this flu season, including the fact that the vaccine against the main strain of the flu is particularly ineffective. A paper from Canadian scientists published last week suggests that the vaccine is only 17% effective against H3N2, the strain that’s causing 80% of flu infections. Worse, in those aged 20 to 64, it’s only 10% effective.”
            https://qz.com/1198395/this-years-flu-vaccine-is-more-than-20-less-effective-than-last-years/

          • mike5790

            infinitely-dense-matrix compression waves!

        • the_amazing_spiderman

          If the flu vaccine wasn’t a lottery I am sure there would be more parents doing it.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Word on the street is, the flu shot this year is garbage. Peeps having trouble admitting that.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          3 of 3 call bullshit…………

        • alex35332

          I agree anti-vaxers are generally dumb when it comes to things like polio, but the flu is always a crap shoot when it comes to vaccinating helping.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Polio, should be required.

          • alex35332

            A handful should be for sure, polio, smallpox, uglyface. Ect.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Not sure uglyface is a thing, but yeah, I agree.

            I’m getting a GIF, aren’t I?

          • alex35332

            It is… but right now only the top 1% can afford the vaccine.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Obviously not working for POTUS….his wife, though…..

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          We’re at 4

        • Big Buck64

          I cant take the flu vaccine . It actually gives me flu like symptoms .

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            buck, there is a certain percent of people who have medical reasons why they should not vaccinate. i’m guessing you fall in that category. so…. it is even more important for folks like yu to have everyone else vaccinate.

            and, of course, no vaccine is 100% effective, especially with something like the flu which mutates so fast. still, the more people vaccinated the safer society as a whole is.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          4.5

          • alex35332

            Lets be nice it’s 4.5 to 1.5.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Whatever.

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            what are 4.5 or 1.5 supposed to mean?

          • smokey

            penis size?

          • alex35332

            Grower not a shower.

  • Flounder

    Steve Thomas Team Captain MJ45 • 7 minutes ago
    I think Manning at his peak was a better QB than Brady at his peak.
    ______________________________________________________________________________
    He also had much better talent around him then Brady ever had and still couldn’t beat him.

    • Big Buck64

      Except for that last time

    • Zig-Zag_BC
      • Big Buck64

        You do understand that’s whip cream ?
        Please tell me you can see that .

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Yeah Greg, I can see that.

    • alex35332

      He had better WR’s, but Brady always had a better OL IMO.

      • Flounder

        Tom Brady is by far a better QB then Payton Manning it’s not even close.

        • alex35332

          Brady a better head, Payton the better arm.

  • smokey

    Had a young man (23 yrs) at our SB party. Kept reminding us folks who had money on the Pats how much the Pats cheated in the past and so on and so forth. Finally I told him he’s gotta come up with some new material, cuz he was being stupid…another faulty Eagle’s fan.

    • mike5790

      if you’re going to lay money on a team, it should be Nebraska MBB. if you’re that type you know how to do ATS research. They’re 18-6 ATS, with I believe a 15-1 streak.

      For entertainment purposes only.

  • Flounder

    LOL

    President Trump can’t be a racist because he’s taken photos with black celebrities, including rappers and Al Sharpton, his son Donald Trump Jr. said in a interview this week.

    • smokey

      That’s funny. I had a photo with a friend’s cat once.

  • MJ45

    The colts should offer Manning the head coach position.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Aww, shucks…- Paisley

      • MJ45

        Haha, well there is that cash cow he would have to walk away from.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          He’s far from old. We’ll see Manning with headphones and a clipboard.

    • mike5790

      Why would he want it?
      He making money distributing Budweiser and selling pizza

      • MJ45

        Cause he loves football.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Can’t fathom it……..

  • Coach JS

    Colts GM — “The rivalry (with Pats) is back on.”

    Brady and BB — [yawn]

    • alex35332

      A “rival” not in your division
      Sad stuff

      • Steve Thomas

        It’s only a rivalry in the same manner that a bug has a rivalry with the windshield of a moving car.

    • mike5790

      everyone else
      *yawn*

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Missing one key ingredient.

    • MJ45

      I’m from Indiana and some of my Indiana friends say the rivalry goes back to about a decade ago when their was discussion of who was the better quarterback between Brady and Manning.

      • Steve Thomas

        I think Manning at his peak was a better QB than Brady at his peak.

        • MJ45

          Yes, but Brady got all of praise, so colts fans would always look forward to playing the Pats and proving their QB was better.

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            well… and brady* had belichick* as his head coach.

          • Coach JS

            Tony Dungee is worth 20m/year!!

            — Tony D. (and no one else)

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Also, Manning was kinda the offensive coordinator.

          • the_amazing_spiderman

            Yes, watching him at the line of scrimmage dissect the defense pre-snap was a thing of beauty. And he put the ball downfield a lot more than Brady cared to try.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            And coached receivers.

      • smokey

        Now I understand. Didn’t know for a minute what the hell he was talking bout.

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      funny/sad… it’s kind of like asserting the redskins rivalry is back on with [insert team].

    • Flounder

      The other side has to actually win for it to be a rivalry.

  • alex35332

    Okay I’m gonna go grab lunch. But between now and then here is some food for thought.
    The Colts are basically as badly run as the Browns, but they lucked into Payton Manning.

    • Flounder

      And Andrew Luck

      • Different_Cat

        Maybe not so Lucky there.

        • Flounder

          LOL yeah true

      • walter_in_fallschurch

        i think they were absolutely “lucky” (or gamed the system) to end up with luck. they have just possibly ruined him. luck got absolutely no support from a crappy front office and has been basically fed him to the wolves.

        • Flounder

          Yeah agreed.

        • alex35332

          Not like Manning had a star studded cast either. A few good players but no depth and usually a weak OL

    • Coach JS

      And imagine if they’d picked Ryan Leaf…

      • MJ45

        Or RG3 over luck. How would we be now if we had Luck?

        • the_amazing_spiderman

          Our O-line at the time was questionable… so probably not much better off. But who knows really

    • smokey

      Who???
      Payton fucking Manning
      –Denver fans; Super Bowl 50

  • HTTRsince65

    NOILRMOT DC

  • Josh RosenSquinns

    HTTRsince65 Steve Thomas • 7 minutes ago
    blocks better and is healthier, which is what I tried to point out. If Reed could block better and stay healthy, virtual tie imo
    ________________

    Healthy, Reed, block, Reed, same sentence???

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!

    • HTTRsince65

      tbf, I did say “IF”

    • Steve Thomas

      I don’t think the team really cares too much that Reed can’t block. Doc Walker basically told us that.

      As receivers, Kelce and Reed have been essentially neck and neck.

  • noonefromtampa

    So RG3 can you tell us how marrying someone, fathering a child with her and them dropping them to impregnate another women who is not you wife is all “part of God’s plan” for you?

    • Different_Cat

      Guessing that would be one of the “imperfect” parts.

      • walter_in_fallschurch

        as long as jesus forgives…. ‘sall good.

        • mike5790

          and he shall forgive hence ye repent and believe

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            darn it! you had me right up to that “believe” part. that’s a tough one to swallow.

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        I give him half a point for labeling himself imperfect… but he needs to take it a step farther and discuss exactly “what” makes him imperfect.

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          “imperfect” is a very basic christian tenet. we’re all imperfect… because…. adam.

          • Coach JS

            And because… we’re human.

          • the_amazing_spiderman

            yes, but we are talking about RG3…

          • smokey

            Don’t drink, don’t smoke, what do ya do…
            -Adam Ant

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            hahaha…

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Or, if you’re a denialist, Eve.

    • mike5790

      birth of a new RG3 nation?

  • Different_Cat

    Dang, not a great number for Sony.

    Kent Lee Platte‏
    @MathBomb
    Follow Follow @MathBomb
    More
    2018 RB prospect fumble rates in number of touches per fumble (rush, receiving, and returns):

    Michel-55.5
    Chubb-99.25
    Penny-103.17
    Guice-106.8
    Freeman-115
    Barkley-197.75
    Johnson-201
    Jones-311.5

    Higher number, obviously, is better. Relatively sure handed class.

    • Different_Cat

      But to put in in perspective:

      2017 RB prospect fumble rates:
      Fournette 1/82 touches –
      Cook 1/59 –
      McCaffrey 1/185 –
      Kamara 1/40 –
      McGuire 1/168 –
      J. Williams 1/157 –
      Hunt 1/855

      • Coach JS

        2015 RB Prospect rates:

        M. Jones – 1/2

    • noonefromtampa

      I’ve seen several mocks have us taking Penny like in the 4th

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        I like that.

  • Different_Cat
    • walter_in_fallschurch

      is this like making me feel old when i do not know any of the performers in the top 40?

  • Different_Cat
    • walter_in_fallschurch

      gosh… i can’t wait to read parts 2 and 3….

      • alex35332

        Best move I ever made was unfollowing him.

        • Different_Cat

          Your loss!

          • HTTRsince65

            Predictable!

          • alex35332

            My loss of not losing brain cells listening to that bama.

          • Josh RosenSquinns

            True. He provides constant feeder for making fun of and laughing at him.

          • the_amazing_spiderman

            I mean… really…. he said it right there, “I do what I need to do in order to praise [God’s] holy name”. So what exactly is it that he is doing to bring praise to God? Has he humbled himself, and confessed his wrong doing to those whom he has hurt? Naaaaa… it’s all talk

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Don’t go ridin’ on that long black train?

  • the_amazing_spiderman

    @AdamSchefter
    12m12 minutes ago

    Colts’ GM Chris Ballard wraps his press conference by saying, “The rivalry is back on.”

    • the_amazing_spiderman

      Patriots are on their schedule too

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      and the gloves are off?

    • Flounder

      What rivalry?

      • Different_Cat

        Colts/Browns?

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        I guess he means the Colts (Manning) and Pats (Brady) days? Or back when the Colts were in the AFC East…

  • noonefromtampa

    Shanmugapriya Muniswamaiah

    OK, I’m stumped on how to pronounce that name

    • HTTRsince65

      Shan Munis

    • noonefromtampa

      Hopefully they go by Steve or Sally or something much easier for me

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Shah-moo-gah-pryah Moon-s-wam-aya

      • noonefromtampa

        actually I think you are right

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          EWAG

      • HTTRsince65

        shah or Shan?

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          girl or boy?

          • HTTRsince65

            idk, was looking at the spelling above and I’ve no idea

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            It matters, I mean, what if he’s some big dude from a male dominant culture, and smashes you for inadvertently calling him a female?

          • noonefromtampa

            that would be my next question LOL

  • walter_in_fallschurch

    do you think alex smith has had better or worse “weapons” in KC than KC had in washington?

    • noonefromtampa

      slightly worse

      • HTTRsince65

        Lmwao!

        • noonefromtampa

          I mean it was close right?

          • HTTRsince65

            hilarious and I literally laughed out loud. folks in the office were like what’s so funny?

    • alex35332

      Is that a joke? We have nothing compared to what he had in KC.

    • HTTRsince65

      much, much better. it’s not even debateable

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      guess i need to distunguish between last season and the 2 seasons before that. our receivers this year were nothing like the previous 2 years….

      • HTTRsince65

        he has had a really good rushing attack and defense while with the Chiefs too. Kelce is a lot better than Reed too, he blocks and is healthier

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          redskins had kick-ass receivers 2 and 3 years ago – when kirk put up those 4000 yd seasons.

          • HTTRsince65

            he had a 4000 yard season last year, imagine if he had a rushing attack and stout defense, oh nvrmnd…hee hee hee

        • Steve Thomas

          Kelce isn’t alot better than Reed. He’s just healthier. Reed and Kelce have had very similar production.

          • HTTRsince65

            blocks better and is healthier, which is what I tried to point out. If Reed could block better and stay healthy, virtual tie imo

  • HTTRsince65

    Joel Corry didn’t like giving up Fuller either. Some who’ve shrugged it off(giving away Fuller) as no big deal say Joel is the shit so I’m not sure why the discrepancy.

    • alex35332

      Don’t think anyone likes paying the iron price.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Sure, doesn’t mean you can devalue iron to make yourself feel better. It is what it is.

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        Oh we all will be laughing about this when Alex Smith and the Redskins hoist the Lombardi Trophy in 2020

        • HTTRsince65

          Amen

    • Steve Thomas

      No, he didn’t, but he didn’t freak out about it, either. He just said that he’d rather have given up another draft pick. My sense of this is that KC insisted on Fuller as the price to getting this done early, and I think it was a tough call, but fair and good for both sides.

      Because otherwise, this team really would have been in a world of hurt at QB this season unless they got lucky.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        He’s also not psychologically vested in this team.

        • HTTRsince65

          clear eyed…or cold eyed as a former blogger with us who won’t join us used to say 🙂

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Sure, then with the next breath, recites some emotionally charged political rant.

          • HTTRsince65

            pot stirrer, which we need at times imo

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            We’ve plenty of pot.

          • HTTRsince65

            i’m running low…vape still working tho jk

      • walter_in_fallschurch

        as a VT alum, it hurts to give up fuller. not necessarily saying it was bd, but it hurts. also, there was no way in hell we were re-signing cousins, so we had to do something.

        • HTTRsince65

          You’re at the acceptance stage…

      • HTTRsince65

        I get that.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Tough week for Boston, eh?

  • HTTRsince65
  • Josh RosenSquinns

    The funny apart about the BTG and Buck spat below is that they agree….

    • Big Buck64

      I’m listening to the podcast and the guy is reaffirming my opinions . That is all .

      • Steve Thomas

        Joel really knows his stuff. We’ve had him on two other times and he’s always been great.

        • alex35332

          Joel’s a 10, and I have no idea why he talks with us. Doesn’t need too.

          • Steve Thomas

            He thanked you specifically this morning on Twitter for bringing him on the show.

          • alex35332

            Which is why I tell you to have your own twitter acct. So that you get more credit, which you deserve.

          • Steve Thomas

            I utterly don’t care about that.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Some folks should maybe listen, eh?

      • Josh RosenSquinns

        Well to be fair, that may be your biggest issue… listeing to the podcast.

        • Steve Thomas

          ***looking for the ban button***

          • Josh RosenSquinns

            ^Ha! All in good fun, Steve. Love what you guys are doing.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            ^Coppin’ Deuces^

          • Josh RosenSquinns

            Not sure what that means, but if generally means kissing up, then yep.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            That falls within the scope, yes.

  • Steve Thomas

    Now that we’ve done the contract part of Alex Smith on the show,our next episode is going to feature another guest who can really get into his film and what he brings to the Redskins.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Bullock!

    • HTTRsince65

      More maturity-err, age.
      More mobility on roll outs.
      Perhaps a bit more touch on deep balls,
      Otherwise, very similar results.

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        Pocket awareness… better
        Protects the ball… better

        • HTTRsince65

          forgot the ball protection. could that be better o-line protection? idk

    • Coach JS

      Hey Steve… just curious. Are/were you Skinsfan713?

      • Steve Thomas

        Formerly, yes, before I quit TI.

        • Coach JS

          Cool. Good to know. I thought so, but I wasn’t sure.

  • Big Buck64

    Listening …. and it reaffirms my opinions , just cut the guy lose . It’s over , be done with it .

    • btg

      Ok please have the ability to separate reality from rumors

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Are you a professional football agent, or in any way associated with the working of professional football contracts?

      • Big Buck64

        Going off the interview shithead .

        • btg

          Nice

          Considering that he’s a free agent

          But I’m the s-head

          • Big Buck64

            Again for your dumbass , listening to the podcast and agreeing with it . Wouldn’t be a smart move . You understand they can still tag him , don’t you ? Stupid ass

          • btg

            Love the insults

            Tagging him is 1 percent reward
            1 million percent risk

            You understand that right?

          • Steve Thomas

            Listen to what Joel had to say about it. He acknowledged that it’s fraught with peril, but he also said that Bruce is crazy enough to try it.

          • Big Buck64

            That’s not unreasonable unless you have BA’s nuts in your mouth .

  • noonefromtampa

    so I’ve track 26 mocks so far – pick count

    Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma 2
    Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama 4
    Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama 6
    Derwin James, S, Florida State 4
    James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State 1
    Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming 1
    Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia 4
    Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech 2
    Vita Vea, DT, Washington 2

    • noonefromtampa

      defense is way popular now after the Smith deal

      Payne, James, Smith tops on D
      Ridley on O

      • noonefromtampa

        and a couple still to update post trade, which will probably make those Mayfield/Allen pick disappear

      • mike5790

        I wouldn’t be concerned with the Ridley pick if he were really the best WR in the draft, what I would be concerned with is how rel young the WR corps would be, need leadership

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      4’s baby!

  • Different_Cat

    Elf on the Shelf busting on McDaniels:

    https://twitter.com/TonyDungy/status/961258145623527430

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      Totally agree. Total douche move by McDaniels.

      Actually cool that the Colts are going to honor all of the Coordinator and assistant coach contracts they signed. Actually, very cool.

    • SCamp

      Yea… it’s pretty shitty

    • skinswest

      Ryan Harris, a former right tackle with the Broncos under McDaniels (and Kubiak), is on the radio out here. He thinks the Colts dodged a bullet. Can’t stand McDaniels and says a lot of players feel the same way.

  • noonefromtampa

    WaPo is pretty much now Moe and the nobodies

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Building a troll army…

      • noonefromtampa

        Winter is coming

        King Moe and the troll army!

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          You know this.

    • HTTRsince65

      I haven’t been over there in a while

    • Coach JS

      He’s still over there?

      I guess once you’ve dug your heels in sometimes it’s hard to undig. But sheesh. That’s a sad fate—stuck at that troll fest.

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        What’s his deal? He can’t leave the post?

        • Josh RosenSquinns

          Stubborn; arrogant.

          • the_amazing_spiderman

            So he is on stage 2… anger.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            You guys grossly underestimate Moe.

          • Josh RosenSquinns

            Not really. But sometimes one’s stubborness/arrogance can really prevent that someone from moving forward.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            That could also be considered relevant to someone assuming that everyone is moving on the same path.

          • the_amazing_spiderman

            So the real solution… is we all need to create a faux account at WaPo and go troll Moe for a week until he gives up and leaves. Then when he shows up here, we can act like we have no idea.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Or….let Moe do Moe.

          • SCamp

            That seems easiest. Why franchise tag Moe in an attempt to trade him when we already traded a third and a CB for Hog Sty? Seems petty and vindictive…

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Aye

          • Sean

            I love this post so much.

  • noonefromtampa

    so flat earth rocket guy (“Mad” Mike Hughes), his rocket failed to ignite
    so the earth is still round and the flat earth conspiracy remains unproven

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Send more ca$h!

    • noonefromtampa

      on the other hand Elon Musk is going to knock an asteroid out of orbit which will crash into the Earth destroying life as we know it

      • HTTRsince65

        What could go wrong?

        -Musk

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        The Tesla will get manhandled….

      • mike5790

        the asteroid is the freight train
        the Tesla is the Tesla sitting on the tracks

  • btg

    Rest assured much like with rg, every game that KC plays well dc will be providing updates along with telling everyone how he wanted to keep kc

    • Different_Cat

      Wow, you nailed it! Who doesn’t know that I’ve been head of the Cousins fan club for years? Oh wait … that was you.

      • btg

        When have you ever wanted anything other than to be able to claim something in hopes of patting yourself on the back

        • Different_Cat

          Dude…. Go back to fluffing BA. It’s the only thing you’re good at.

          • btg

            And I’m right

          • Different_Cat

            Totally! BA is a genius!

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Agents agree! wait…….

  • HTTRsince65

    Jets have a real shot at KC imo.

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      I do believe they have a shot. They’re better than some give them credit for.

      With better QB play, they’d probably be 7-9 like the Skins.

      • HTTRsince65

        I think better than that, plus the media market is yugggeee

        • Josh RosenSquinns

          Yes, but living in NYC, the Jets will ALWAYS be the second team in NY. They will always be second fiddle to the Gnats, just like the Mets will always be second fiddle to the Yankees.

          • HTTRsince65

            sure, but 2nd there is still enormous, and if the Jets start winning and Giants don’t….

          • Steve Thomas

            The Jets will only be second fiddle until they win a Super Bowl.

          • Josh RosenSquinns

            No, that is entirely incorrect. If you lived here, you’d understand. Just the way the city will always feel about these teams. History.

            Now, if the Gnats were a consistent loser for like 20-30 years, and the Jets were contenders and winners during a long portion of that, maybe it could change. But, I still strongly doubt it.

          • Steve Thomas

            Okay, fair enough, you live there.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Jets are the generic alternative in NYC

  • HTTRsince65

    Grief over Cousins & the stages:

    1. Denial – The first reaction is denial. In this stage, individuals believe the diagnosis is somehow mistaken, and cling to a false, preferable reality.

    2. Anger – When the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue, they become frustrated, especially at proximate individuals. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: “Why me? It’s not fair!”; “How can this happen to me?”; “Who is to blame?”; “Why would this happen?”.

    3. Bargaining – The third stage involves the hope that the individual can avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek compromise. For instance: “I’d give anything to have him back.” Or: “If only he’d come back to life, I’d promise to be a better person!”

    4. Depression – “I’m so sad, why bother with anything?”; “I’m going to die soon, so what’s the point?”; “I miss my loved one, why go on?”
    During the fourth stage, the individual despairs at the recognition of their mortality. In this state, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time mournful and sullen.

    5. Acceptance – “It’s going to be okay.”; “I can’t fight it; I may as well prepare for it.”
    In this last stage, individuals embrace mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. People dying may precede the survivors in this state, which typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable condition of emotions.

    Which stage are YOU in? lol

    • Steve Thomas

      If you’re relating this to Cousins leaving, I went from 1 straight to 5.

      • HTTRsince65

        I’m trying to be funny but yeah

      • the_amazing_spiderman

        A lot of peeps were stuck on 2, not about Kirk but the loss of Fuller

        • Steve Thomas

          I didn’t enter any stage of grief over Fuller. He’s a CB; we’ll find another one. The end.

        • HTTRsince65

          I was/am about losing a talented young playmaker. It’s not as easy to find those as some make it seem imho.
          ^see what I mean lol jk Mr. Steve

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      KS, FTG

      • HTTRsince65

        lol

  • noonefromtampa

    if Kirk really want to be loved and paid, Browns make a lot of sense
    he would be the face of the franchise and they have a lot of picks to build a team around him

    • Different_Cat

      Also, if the Browns don’t need a QB they could use their two 1st round picks on, e.g., SBarkley and [another great prospect]. They have a ton of draft picks, including (I think) 7 in the first two rounds. Now that that they have a professional FO, they really could take off.

      • Steve Thomas

        I really don’t understand why the Browns would automatically draft Barkley. If there’s one thing that team does well – and it’s basically only one thing – it’s running the ball. They already have talented RBs who are productive. I think adding Barkley would be, for them, a minimal upgrade, and I’d go for another area of need.

        • Different_Cat

          I don’t disagree, but everyone seems to have them taking him with their 1st or 4th overall pick.

        • HTTRsince65

          Because they’re the Browns?

  • Steve Thomas

    On the other hand, I utterly don’t care where Cousins goes now that he’s not going to be a Redskin.

    • HTTRsince65

      Funny, and true.

    • Flounder

      Me either

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      I think he’d take a slight haircut to be with a contender. Not substantial, but a slight one.

      Personally, I hope he goes to the pit of misery: Cleveland.

      • AustinSkin

        KSFTSOBAL

      • Steve Thomas

        I don’t. We’ll see.

  • the_amazing_spiderman

    So… McDaniels has now officially backed out of the deal. He is staying in NE.

    NFL.com reporting…
    “By around 7 p.m. ET, McDaniels was calling Colts general manager Chris Ballard and backing out of a deal announced just hours earlier to become Indianapolis’ new head coach, opting to stay with the Patriots as offensive coordinator instead of taking his long-awaited second shot to run his own show.”

  • Josh RosenSquinns

    I don’t see KC choosing to go to the Browns if they offer him the most money. Jets, perhaps a little more desirable. Denver, Minny, Jags, even Cards all decent options.

    • mike5790

      who runs an offense most similar to Jay’s, Sean’s, or Kyle’s?

      • Different_Cat

        Sean, although he added more RPO stuff for Goff.

        • mike5790

          No, I mean what OTHER QB-hungry team runs an offense most similar to (at least one of) those three?

      • noonefromtampa

        Jets, Minny, Browns = Jay/Sean

        • mike5790

          For arguments sake, then what happens if the Jets trade for Foles?

          • noonefromtampa

            and the Vikes resign Teddy or Case

            leaves Browns as closest match offense wise

          • mike5790

            and therefore… Kirk might want to try to get something done before Foles gets traded or the Vikings re-sign one of their QBs.

            Not saying it is going to happen. I’m just saying tag n trade isn’t lunacy.

    • Flounder

      Kirk will take the best offer he is given.

    • Steve Thomas

      I don’t think the team matters a single bit. I think the single, one, and only consideration is the contract.

      • Flounder

        Kirk wants to be the highest paid QB and wants to be the center of attention he will take the best offer.

  • noonefromtampa

    pre dinner convo

    So your friend, she is the one married to that guy who likes to talk about weather and science. (long groan, check charge level on phone)

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      LOL

      Could always have a delightful debate over whether ballet is a sport.

  • Flounder

    This whole Redskins are considering tagging Kirk is just more rumor mill BS that has been given way more attention than it’s worthy of. Shows me the sports media has not enough real stories to fill their days. I’m sure they probably thought of doing it you would be stupid not to but the chances of it actually happening are slim to none. Just like ESPN reporting that Tom and Bill could both retire after the SB.

    • the_amazing_spiderman

      Agree! Plus the damage it would do to our reputation across the league. Who would want to sign with a team that treats its players that way???

      • Flounder

        The only way it would or could happen is if a team really wanted Cousins and that is the only way they could get him but Cousins would have to agree to that.

      • noonefromtampa

        Players come here for Harvest Fest
        — BA

      • mike5790

        there’d be no damage. no conspiracy. no malice. no hostage. none of that. that’s not how it would work at all. it would be mechanically different, but done for the same reasons the Smith trade was done so early.

        • Steve Thomas

          It’d be bad for the team’s reputation around the league. And this team already had a questionable reputation.

  • Josh RosenSquinns

    walter_in_fallschurch HTTRsince65 • 2 minutes ago
    how about: i am so sick of going out to dinner with friends and everyone at the table texting or tweeting googling whatever, and ignoring everyone else at the table at which i am sitting. i think it’s rude.
    ______________

    Walter, have you ever taken a step back and wondered if maybe its your company that is lacking?

    • HTTRsince65

      I told him I’d find new friends.

      • noonefromtampa

        I find that if you smack the phone out of their hands and send it flying across the room

        they either pay attention or you end up finding new friends

    • Different_Cat

      “Jut a minute, Walter, I’m watching the the ice melt in my water glass.”

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      oh, please…. these are regular, wonderful, typical people under the thrall of their cell phones. and, maybe it’s not everyone at once, but damn, people are addicted to their cell phones.

      if you see someone “driving drunk” at 12 noon or whatever, chances are they are actually on their cell phone.

  • Different_Cat
  • Steve Thomas

    One of the most interesting things that Joel said was that Cousins might have a legit grievance should the Redskins apply the franchise tag to him. Imagine that mess.

    • HTTRsince65

      par for the course…..

      • Flounder

        Par for the fake news made up course.

        • HTTRsince65

          Lmao!

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      what kind of “grievance” could he have? are you speaking legally or just “real world”?

      • Flounder

        Most these guys are speaking out of their ass.

      • Josh RosenSquinns

        Legal. Under the CBA, you’re only supposed to apply the FTag if you have intentions to try to sign the player long terms. Clearly, if the Skins tag Cousins, the intent would not be to sign him long-term, but to control that little biotch.

        • mike5790

          Alex Smith is clearly our backup QB.

          -The Front Office

          • HTTRsince65

            lmwao!

        • mike5790

          But again, I don’t think that’s how any of this would work. If they wanted Smith before FA, they’d want Kirk gone before FA. They’re not going to tag him unless Kirk and his Agent have something they and the Other team want to get done. I mean, short of blind rage incompetence.

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          josh,
          “Clearly, if the Skins tag Cousins, the intent would not be to sign him long-term, but to control that little biotch.”
          ————–

          i don’t know how you could legally prove that. maybe we signed smith as an emergency back-up in the unlikely event that kirk spurns us. very difficult, it seems to me, to divine intent.

      • Steve Thomas

        Joel was talking about the NFLPA filing a grievance pursuant to the applicable provisions of the CBA.

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      This, of course, does increase the likelihood that the Skins would try the tag and trade….

    • noonefromtampa

      all this talk from both side is just posturing unless some team reaches out to the Skins which has not happened yet

      if anything happens it will occur during the combine when people can sit down and talk face to face

      • noonefromtampa

        Redskins want compensation, Kirk wants to maximize his options

        • HTTRsince65

          they handled it all wrong if they wanted compensation. That’s the FO’s fault, clearly.

    • Different_Cat

      D_C’d by a few days.

  • Different_Cat

    Pretty good: scout-speak explained.

    Example: Great contested catch receiver – A wide receiver who can’t separate to save his life.

    https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-draft-season-cliches-must-know-survive-next-3-months/

  • walter_in_fallschurch

    This simple solution to smartphone addiction is now used in over 600 U.S. schools
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2018/02/05/this-millennial-discovered-a-surprisingly-simple-solution-to-smartphone-addiction-schools-love-it/?utm_term=.bc2c2acf1e10
    —————————

    basically: put your damn phone away and interact with the people around you. hard to believe this is a genius idea, but it is. people, kids especially, don’t know how to interact in person.

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      Phones have no place in middle and elementary schools. Need to be checked at the school and not returned until the end of the day.

      • HTTRsince65

        except when there’s another school shooting, then we all want our children to be able to call for help

        • Josh RosenSquinns

          I think the benefits of being phone-free outlweigh the highly unlikely situation there is a school shooting at your child’s school.

          • HTTRsince65

            Agree to disagree. Boy scouts are always prepared, however unlikely the situation. Plus, the phones are on airplane mode until break times or lunch time.

          • noonefromtampa

            yep always prepared, it’s why I always had knives, rope, zip ties, duct tape, super glue with me growing up

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          httr,
          how about a rule where you can keep your damn phone, but ONLY use it the event of a school shooting…?

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Oh yeah, that’ll work…….

          • Josh RosenSquinns

            Exactly, BC.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Mind bottling

          • HTTRsince65

            such hostility? Damn phone? geez. lighten up.

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            httr,
            i am so sick of seeing a table of 4 people out to dinner and they’re all in ignoring each other with their noses buried in their cell phones.

          • HTTRsince65

            Why do strangers habits annoy YOU? why is it YOUR issue? Hmm

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            how about: i am so sick of going out to dinner with friends and everyone at the table texting or tweeting googling whatever, and ignoring everyone else at the table at which i am sitting. i think it’s rude.

          • HTTRsince65

            That, I agree with and I’d find new friends.

          • HTTRsince65

            Common sense rules, keep phones off and don’t use then during classroom time. It works here. If your situation is different, I don’t know why.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        My daughter isn’t allowed to bring a phone to school, school rule, and my rule.

  • Flounder

    Different_Cat • an hour ago
    What tag and trade comes down to, IMO, is whether it would be worth it to a team to meet KC’s asking price AND throw in compensation worth more than a late 2019 3rd round draft pick. In order to make it work Washington would have to give KC permission to talk to prospective teams. Under those circumstances, why wouldn’t prospective teams tell Kirk, “we’ll meet your demands, but we don’t want to give up a draft pick. Our offer is good after the tag deadline expires?”
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Simple because a team like Denver for instance doesn’t have the cap space to get into a bidding war with the Jets and Cleveland, so if they could lock Kirk up before FA’s that helps them even if they have to give up a pick.

    • Different_Cat

      You think Kirk is going to give them a discount? LOL

      • Flounder

        No Kirk has proven he is all about the money, I’m just saying that is the theory behind the thought process.

        • HTTRsince65

          He hasn’t proven that at all.

          • Flounder

            Sure he has.

          • HTTRsince65

            How? The team applied the tag. We will see soon enough. I’d think, given his age and conservative nature, he has plenty of money already and would like to win. We all will see soon enough. Don’t mistake what I’m saying as he will work for peanuts, but I think going where he feels is a good fit might trump extra dollars

      • mike5790

        Kirk is going to go to a winner where he sees a fit and who also gives him the type of contract he is looking for.

        I think Cleveland is looking more for a guy like Sam Bradford to keep the spot warm form whomever they pick #1 overall

        • Steve Thomas

          Cousins will go to the team that pays him the most money.

          • Flounder

            Bingo

          • mike5790

            he is not going to a team where he doesn’t think he can succeed. because the money and influence you have isn’t JUST based on your contract money from an NFL team. Cleveland, as example (I don’t think they’ll be in on the bidding for the reasons above) has not proven to have any vet leadership, and questionable new management. I doubt he goes there unless it’s almost his only choice for whatever reason… to start.

          • Steve Thomas

            Money, period.

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            steve,
            do you think so? i think now he is kinda set for money. i think he will go to a team with a chance to win lots of games, playoffs games, etc….

          • Steve Thomas

            There’s no doubt. Joel talked about this is the interview. Whatever Cousins has said about this in public is garbage. It’s about the money. It’s always about the money. Unless you’re married to an internationally famous supermodel who out-earns you, it’s about the money.

          • walter_in_fallschurch

            steve,
            i just have trouble imagining the difference btwn having 100 millioon in the bank and 110 million.

            players talk, and talk, about how important winning is…. and, personally, if i were set for life, and my children and grand children were set for life, i would go to a team with a chance to win.

            so, if cleveland (thank god we’re not cleveland) offered him the most money, do you think he would go there?

          • Steve Thomas

            If Cleveland comes out with the best contact, absolutely. I think it’s always about the money. He’ll rationalize it to himself somehow:
            – talented team
            – new front office
            – “this is a team on the rise and I’m excited to be a part of it.”

          • HTTRsince65

            I agree Walter

    • Josh RosenSquinns

      Kirk can give Denver the same deal on a sign and tag or in FA. Why would he do it in a signa and tag (because he loves the Skins organization so much)?

    • Steve Thomas

      I’d bet the house that this doesn’t happen.

      • Flounder

        I agree

  • Josh RosenSquinns

    alex35332 Team Captain mike5790 • an hour ago
    But each slice is [Peyton Manning] forehead sized. So it’s really not a bad value.
    ___________________

    LMAO!

  • Josh RosenSquinns

    McDaniels better get that HC job in NE ehwn BB retires, because if I’m another team and saw you reneg on a a deal you made, I would have very strong reservations about you (particularly your character).

    Either that or the Colts are such a clusterfudge that every other team in the NFL completely understands why you re-neged.

    • alex35332

      Bill to Josh “Just remember, that as long as I’m still coaching here in New England, you’ve got no chance at getting to the Superbowl while coaching in the AFC”

    • mike5790

      hopefully they also don’t remember his time as Denver’s HC

      • Josh RosenSquinns

        There’s that, too.

    • Flounder

      It’s not a deal until you sign the contract which he never did.

      • Josh RosenSquinns

        Only because he technically couldn’t. They had agreed on terms, and this is the understanding in the NFL – that its a handshake deal until we can actually sign. You know that Flounder.

  • btg

    Paul Richardson
    Allen Robinson

  • Different_Cat

    Dumb question, but does re-signing your own free agents count against you in terms of the compensatory draft pick equation?

    • mike5790

      I was thinking about that, and I don’t think it does, because what it does is cancel out you losing them. Does that make sense, so if you LOST a bunch of important free agents, you’d get compensatory picks, but if you re-sign them you cancel that out, meaning they don’t have the net effect. It’s the net that matters, right?

      • Different_Cat

        Logical.

        • mike5790

          and even if they sign a FA WR1-2 and some minor medium FA work, they prob would get some compensation in 2019 for Kirk. But even the Skins prob don’t know what they’re going to do in FA right now nor what players would agree to a deal with them. Trading Cousins may not be worth the juice, but the hope is, again, that they know what they’re getting into before the tag. But Cousin’s preferred team(s) would have to be interested in doing this now rather than the tampering period.

      • Steve Thomas

        Yes.

    • alex35332

      No. I don’t think it does.

    • Lbsand

      It doesn’t.

  • btg

    To even suggest that the team is going to tag KC is beyond the pale

    • mike5790

      All I am saying is that they could and it doesn’t have to be a disaster if they do. I mean, it COULD be, but I think that’s unlikely.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      To suggest that a professional NFL agent suggesting that Bruce may do something stupid like that, with historical proof of him doing so is “beyond pale”, is in fact, in itself, beyond pale…. unless of course, you are someone with relative equal experience in the field, which as we all know, is not the case.

  • alex35332

    Off topic: Don’t know if I’ve ever shared this. But from time to time I like to go find old black and white photos of the Skins, and do some colorizing, mostly to just work on my photoshop skills. Here’s one I worked on way back of the Redskins vs the Brooklyn Dodgers in the 1940’s.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/77e54bcd70993c8da48d9e3ac5da70303a188c8a37cb9c8c5e949fbcab2ff8cd.jpg

  • alex35332

    Most likely HC for the colts now as I see it:
    A. Payton Manning
    B. Jim Zorn (he’s been in this situation before)
    C. Jim Irsay’s dealer
    D. Jeffery Michael Fisher
    E. Go with out a coach for a year, let fans vote on play calls all year via a web app.
    F. Mara

    • Different_Cat

      Charlie Weis — backup former Pats OC.

      • mike5790

        Bryan Kelly –> Colts
        Urban Meyer –> Notre Dame

  • Different_Cat

    What tag and trade comes down to, IMO, is whether it would be worth it to a team to meet KC’s asking price AND throw in compensation worth more than a late 2019 3rd round draft pick. In order to make it work Washington would have to give KC permission to talk to prospective teams. Under those circumstances, why wouldn’t prospective teams tell Kirk, “we’ll meet your demands, but we don’t want to give up a draft pick. Our offer is good after the tag deadline expires?”

    • alex35332

      Exactly, the only teams that would do it are the guys who realize they are coming in 3rd place in the kirk cousins sweepstakes and want to end around the bidding war.

      • Different_Cat

        Yes, and in that case Kirk isn’t going to agree to the deal anyway.

      • mike5790

        Every single team wants to have their QB situation figured out before the rest of FA starts.

        And let’s say the Redskins sign two significant FAs, and they get almost nothing in compensatory value in 2019? Then pretty much anything they can get for Cousins is the sure thing now. It would be different if they were virtually g’d a 3rd round pick.

        But all of that is unknown. I think it is worth a shot if you’re the Skins. Give Kirk permission to shop, if it works out, then fine, if not, well it doesn’t. There’s little risk for the Redskins, because again, at least in my mind, you don’t actually tag him until the deal is done. They’re not going to tag him blindly and hold on to him INTO the Free Agency period. That’d be bad business, and it would be antithetical to their Smith trade.

    • WHY3

      This whole thing sounds like a scheme conjured up by Plankton at the Chum Bucket.

      • alex35332

        It’s a idea that hits the perfect sweet spot that says “crazy and stupid, the Redskins way”

  • AustinSkin

    Nice podcast, guys.

    • alex35332

      Eh. I made a big screw up in this one. Possibly my biggest in the last year of shows.

  • Bad Reputation

    Last thing I remember hearing is that we are thinking about tagging Kirk again, risking missing FA because that would tie up all our cap space. This isn’t gonna happen is it?

    • btg

      No
      Stop listening to rumors

    • alex35332

      I mean, that was 8 months ago dude…. we are already mid 2018 season and sitting at 7-1.

      That flu clearly had you out of a while, and still delirious.

    • mike5790

      that’s not how it would work, they would not go into FA with him under the tag for more than a few minutes

      they would give permission to shop himself
      Kirk finds a deal
      The other teams offers a big pizza party as trade compensation
      Redskins tag Kirk first day they can.
      Kirk got his FA early, the Other team got their QB locked up before FA, there’s a big pizza and beer party in Ashburn. everyone wins

      • alex35332

        Skins have about 55 M in cap room.
        -20 for Smith (rough guess, may be 15)
        -35 for Kirk.
        You are basically giving up on resigning anyone we’ve got till Free Agency.

        • mike5790

          Smith doesn’t count yet. You send in the paperwork for Kirk deal just before the Smith paperwork? Maybe?

          The kind of thing they get back is probably minimal, like I said, would it be Denver, maybe a 2nd round pick swap and a conditional 2019 pick. Maybe they would find it to be not worth it. But they SHOULD know all that before they tag him.

          • alex35332

            Again, that would require Kirk to play nice, and a team that’s ready to go along with the skins and be ready to have a new deal for him.

          • mike5790

            There’s no play nice or conspiracy here. It benefits the other team (or they wouldn’t do it), and for Kirk, it benefits him by being out in front of the other QB deals. It’s a win all around. The Redskins are not going to get big return on it, so it’s not going to “hurt” Kirk’s new team significantly.

          • alex35332

            “for Kirk, it benefits him by being out in front of the other QB deals.”

            How? All I see is you’re forcing him to negotiate with the skins watching over any talks. While at the same time limiting the teams he can negotiate with to those who have the cap space up front to take him on the tag.

          • mike5790

            Pragmatically, teams will have to free up space during the allowed tampering period to sign him anyway. So that consideration may not be as big of a deal as you’d think. He’d only be under the FT for a few minutes on that other team.

          • mike5790

            It really is not any different than why the Skins made the trade for Smith. Why didn’t they just bide their time and wait for Smith to be cut? Because other teams want QBs and they want them before Free Agency for a number of obvious reasons.

          • Different_Cat

            The difference is that Smith didn’t have the power to veto the trade. At minimum he would have had to play for the Skins for a year on a cheap contract.

          • mike5790

            This would only happen if another Team wants it to. Blindly tagging him prob doesn’t last until FA. Kirk isn’t going to sign it and then the Skins would have to revoke it. He’s not going to sign it because he surely knows he is going to get more than $34 mil cash next year, and it would give the Skins the ability to trade him to any team. Only works for everyone if it sort is all MOU’d out beforehand by all three sides.

          • WHY3

            Kirk is the #1 FA QB on the market who is actually going to change teams.

            Why would he need to be out in front of the other QB deals? His deal will likely set those other numbers.

          • mike5790

            Not necessarily. The Eagles could trade Foles before Free Agency. The Vikings could do the same thing with 1 of their QBs.

        • Lbsand

          Correct alex. Once a tag is offered, it counts against the cap whether it’s signed or not. And of course, you can’t trade someone until its signed.

        • WHY3

          What exactly would be Kirk’s incentive to go along with this plan?

          • alex35332

            None.

    • Flounder

      I doubt it the media needs stuff to talk about so they take something like this and blow it way out of proportion.

  • Bad Reputation

    Just got over the Flu. F the Eagles….what else did I miss?

    • alex35332

      F Josh McDaniels

      F Kirk Smith

    • walter_in_fallschurch

      over 50 children have already died of the flu this winter. 80% of those did not have their flu vaccine.

    • Different_Cat

      Dude, you could have just prayed it away!

      “An evangelical minister who advised President Donald Trump’s campaign sparked an uproar Tuesday by suggesting that Christian faith makes people immune from the flu.”
      https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/06/public-health-groups-pan-flu-comments-from-former-trump-evangelical-adviser-327867

      • alex35332

        I’ve yet to hear of anyone on the Jewish side of my family get the flu. So what’s that tell you.

        • AustinSkin

          Chicken soup, the wonder drug

          • alex35332

            And bacon is the carrier? Swine Flu!!!!

        • walter_in_fallschurch

          alex,
          that jewish people are genetically superior…?

          kidding aside, i’ve found jewish people i’ve interacted with to be the most reasonable, logical, rational, evidence-respecting of the judeochrislamic faith.

  • alex35332

    I would love the Colts to have a panic move, and try to go and hire Payton Manning as their head coach.

    • mike5790

      Papa John’s : $10 a slice at Lucas Oil Stadium

      • alex35332

        But each slice is forehead sized. So it’s really not a bad value.

  • btg

    Slow morning

    • alex35332

      DC area on 2 hr delay for rain

  • btg

    The smoke from foxboro is stinging my eyes

  • mike5790

    Big Bubble Game: Tue, Feb 13 Maryland @ Pinnacle Bank Arena

    Though @Penn State tonight is not a gimme (Maryland).
    RPIs:
    Nebraska 54
    Maryland 58

  • Flounder

    There are two top 10 CB’s coming out of Plantation FL, that go to the same high school. That must be a pretty formidable high school to throw on.

    • mike5790

      Miles Jones (Plantation, FL) is N

    • AustinSkin

      Nobody is better than those 2 kids from Greenwood, SC

      – Norman & Swearinger

  • HTTRQGC

    Pierre Garcon courting Malcolm Butler last nite on twitter. ‘Got the QB ,coach ,WRs and defense…SB 53’ he says. Cant say I disagree. Them vs Texans my early SB picks

    • mike5790

      Garoppolo to Patriots, Cousins to Niners in a weak trade with the Skins. Keenum to Arizona. Jacksonville stays put. Bridgewater starts in Minnesota. Hitler returns and sans meth, becomes a great, celebrated artist with supreme social consciousness.

      • HTTRQGC

        The world is nutty for sure !

  • HTTRQGC

    Morning folks. So Mr Curry thinks Minny at top for a Kirk landing spot ? I dont see Kirk in Minny. Their QB basket is full. No way Kirk does what Keenum did either…Maybe Jets or AZ be my guesses where he lands.

    • AustinSkin

      Good morning. Or Denver.

      • HTTRQGC

        Vonn Miller not Elway. Slim chance imo.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Mornin’, care for a cookie?

      • HTTRQGC

        I got some w/o the candy corns already !…thanks but no thanks. Hit yesterdays thread and saw your comment about Ralph. He was my main man growing up as well as Theismann. One tall stick ole Ralph!

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Yeah

    • mike5790

      Minnesota is interesting because they have no QBs under contract, and Kirk going there is a net zero to the NFL QB FA pool, as 3 FAs would be out there. And if Cleveland goes with Mayfield, that means the Giants either take Rosen or ransom the pick. And if they take Rosen then the game is on for Darnold. It might mean that Bridgewater and Bradford get signed as backups. Maybe Jets-Cleveland make a move for Darnold.

      • HTTRQGC

        Kirk will land before the draft. I dont think draft affects where be goes. Browns are out of any discussion w McC there unless some type of 3 team trade (KC agreed tag and trade ..albeit very slim chances but I could see a deal. Denver enters pic if this type scenario )

        • HTTRQGC

          I dont see Minny getting rid of both Keenum and Bridgewater…

          • mike5790

            the problem with Bridgewater is, as an NFL GM, would you sign him as a starter this off-season? Maybe Arizona might if they lose out on the other FAs and don’t think they can trade up for one of the top 4 QBs.

          • HTTRQGC

            Possibly. I see AZ going after KC. Bridgewater if let go brings down …again…KCs asking price

          • HTTRQGC

            Furthermore…this convo shows how premature Skins trade is…panic moded. SMH. If Teddy let go woulda been a good bridge or more in DC…prob cheaper foo.

          • mike5790

            The Redskins have their QB. Only one other QB-needy team is in that boat, and it’s Cleveland.

  • mike5790

    Flounder • an hour ago
    Never say you hired a coach until he signs the contract or stuff like the McDaniels thing happens.

    xxx

    Weird situation. Did the Patriots promise him the throne in X years?

    • AustinSkin

      Heavy lies the crown

      • mike5790

        Right!!!???

        -Frank Solich

    • HTTRQGC

      Kinda like the A Smith deal. Dont count chickens before they hatch…especially if weeks or months in between the contract signing. Things change sometimes…

    • Flounder

      Maybe they also upped his current contract.

  • mike5790

    Happy National Signing Day Part Deux

  • Zig-Zag_BC
  • Zig-Zag_BC
  • kon, for now

    Falcon heavy update…

    the middle booster missed hitting its landing on the drone ship. And, the third burn of the capsule carrying the Tesla roadster overshot it’s target. So, instead of an orbit close to Mars, the roadster going to end up out in the asteroid belt.

    No word yet on if the car has asteroid impact coverage.

    • mike5790

      All you need to do is transport the vehicle to one of our claim centers. No problem.

      -GEICO

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Plutonium Niborg abuse is rampant at SpaceX

    • alex35332

      In the year 4031 a group of jerk-off frat brothers out cruising the outer rim of the asteroid belt come across a derelict old space craft, with an old electric car & a fake spaceman inside it. Not knowing what else to do with it, the frat brothers all take turns grabbing holograms of each of them tea bagging and simulated sex with the space man.

  • HTTRsince65

    I tell you what, this real estate market down here is crazy. Things are selling in a couple days after being listed.

    • kon, for now

      That long?

      The inventory in Dallas has been short for years. Blind offers the minute a listing hits is the norm.

      • HTTRsince65

        That’s a great problem for real estate agents to have!

    • mike5790

      even with interest rates going up?

      a 1% rise in interest rates makes a house 20% (interest wise, which is the majority of the cost early on) more expensive than it was at the low

      • HTTRsince65

        yes even with rates creeping up in fact the masses tend to hurry up and buy and make it quicker decision Because they realize the homes they’re looking at may not be available. My wife is in real estate not me, but she tells me this everyday clients see five to 10 homes they want to look at and by the time they get here to go look at them it might be three or four left, and they better make a decision fast because someone else will swoop in and buy it. It’s a great problem for her on the one hand because she’s making lots of sales. but clients coming from all over the place moving here some of their markets aren’t a strong back where they’re from and they don’t understand why the house won’t be available for them. So she has to deal with some of that. in summary, if you see a home you like here you better buy it now because chances are it won’t last a couple weeks while you wait and try to decide

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that was refreshing. Made that coffee taste extra good.

  • HTTRsince65

    I need the transcript LOL

  • kon, for now

    Half hour show…works for me

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Lol

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Bruce is in a box alright…a litter box.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Boom!

  • kon, for now

    Would rather give up a pick than trade Fuller

    – Expert

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, NANANANANANANANANANANANA!
      Bruce minions

  • HTTRsince65

    Happy Wednesday!

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Happy Happy

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Minny

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    I do not like Joel Corry – flounder

    • HTTRsince65

      Red, green, or yellow Corry?

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        All of the above

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Jake Plumber, lol

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Ship sailed in ’15-’16.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Yea sucka, don’t nobody wanna go to Cleveland.

  • Flounder

    Never say you hired a coach until he signs the contract or stuff like the McDaniels thing happens.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    First – hogsters