You Think You’re Tired of the Kirk Drama, What About Jay Gruden?

January 9, 2018

By Richard Rogers

Jay Gruden’s head coaching record over the past four seasons with the Washington Redskins is 28-34-1. Kirk Cousins’ record as a starter with the Redskins is 26-30-1.  Both have losing records but Gruden will most likely be coaching for his job next season. Kirk, on the other hand, could be come the highest paid NFL player in league history.  It’s the nature of the business.  Coaches, and quarterbacks, get little of the credit and most of the blame.  Kirk will get paid this off-season. Heck, he’s already been paid 44 million dollars over two seasons.  But this charade is wearing thin.

Kirk recently did a lengthy interview with Grant Paulsen and Danny Rouhier on 106.7 The Fan.  In that interview, he talked about the progression of contract talks since 2015, confirming some of the things we already knew and clarifying misconceptions among fans and media. But at this point, who cares? I know Jay does, and he’s made it clear that the days of the one-year deal are up.  Either get a deal done or move on. He wants to know who his quarterback will be moving forward. Jay’s words from his end of season presser have been parsed and chopped and overanalyzed over the past few days.  Some have taken his words as a tepid endorsement of Cousins. I take another view. Maybe Jay is just tired. He’s tired of the questions.  He’s tired of the contract talk and perhaps he’s tired of uncertainty at the position period.

Think about this.  Since Jay Gruden was hired as head coach in 2014, there has been drama.  He’s had to deal with Robert Griffin III. He’s had to deal with the drama of the Scot McCloughan hiring and firing. He’s faced endless questions about his feelings about Kirk and if he wants him or not. It’s not a coincidence that Jay interjected Colt McCoy’s name into the conversation. I believe that Jay believes in Colt. Colt’s a gunslinger, albeit an inferior passer in comparison to Kirk, but he comes with low expectations. Maybe Jay just wants to be able to coach.

I’m not advocating (or not) for Colt McCoy. I’m not a member of the “Cult of Colt”.  But I can’t help but to think that Colt has qualities that Gruden endears himself to.  Both have been written off. Colt has been described as a career backup. Jay was deemed not good enough for the NFL. In a recent radio interview, he joked about not being given a shot to beat out Ty Detmer. Every once in a while, Gruden lets it be known that he was skipped over. He did make quite a name for himself in the Arena Football League. But it’s the Arena Football League. Jay Gruden made less that thirty grand a year as a player, and later he scouted, picked and coached his own players. It’s no mystery that he resented Robert Griffin III, calling him “coddled”. He eviscerated him when he got too cocky. Jay’s a blue-collar guy. He seems to enjoy hard working underdogs like Ryan Grant and Colt McCoy. Griffin had his ego. Kirk has his “process”.  He seems done with the whole situation.

The Redskins brass need to make sure the coach has what he needs to succeed.  It starts at the quarterback position, whether that’s Kirk, Colt or a free agent quarterback yet to be named. It’s unbelievable that we’re back at this same spot. We had TWO quarterbacks and now, we may have none.

Jay is a coach who, at times, looks above average, and other times below average.  But I think he deserves peace at the position. He’s going on five years and has yet to pick his quarterback. He’s spent the last four years developing Cousins, who’s now had three consecutive 4,000 yard passing seasons. He doesn’t get enough credit for that, but I sense that Kirk is not his guy.  They seem to be opposites.  Whatever the case, the Cousins’ contract situation has worn on us all as fans. I can only imagine how Jay feels.

  • HTTRsince65

    Have we locked in cousins yet? LOL

  • Steve Thomas

    Beep beep – new post: roster move: http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/01/09/roster-move/

    • Scamp

      We prefer the term “Oink Oink” here…

  • Different_Cat
    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Neither can he.

  • Rick Deez

    Ian Rapoport

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    When #Panthers coach Ron Rivera fired Mike Shula today, he had a target in mind: Long-time OC Norv Turner, who was out of football last year. Would be an upgrade if that comes together.

    • Different_Cat

      There was a slight holdup, insofar as they had to remove the mothballs from Norve’s clothing and pump out the embalming fluid.

    • frediefritz

      so much for the youth movement

  • Rick Deez

    Blake Bortles is not very good, but you know what? He did what he had to do to advance his team. Do you think Bortles had a “process”?

    • DC-Dan

      All he had to do to advance his team was put up a couple FG drives. His D gave up 3 points. We would win every game that our D only allowed 3 points

      • noonefromtampa

        With the Jax defense we would have been 12-4 or 13-3

    • Lbsand

      He certainly wasn’t good last game but had some really good games this season. Very inconsistent.

      • Lbsand

        Those inconsistencies drives coaches and fans nuts. Doesn’t it!

        • Different_Cat

          Understandable for a 1st or 2nd yr. player, but Bortles has been starting for 4 yrs.

          • Lbsand

            Translation: he is what he is.

  • noonefromtampa

    2 days close to 1,500 comments
    way to go Hog Sty

    • Flounder

      3 new post also.

  • noonefromtampa

    frediefritz Zig-Zag_BC • 34 minutes ago
    noone said you can’t post on both sites
    =============================
    I did? I must be getting old, don’t remember that

    • frediefritz

      no, I said noone, not Noone. 🙂

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        And I ran with it!

      • noonefromtampa

        LOL

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        If you want to get picky, “no one”.

    • Lbsand

      Bah, don’t listen to lew-lew. Unless of course he’s feeding some info from The One.

  • Flounder

    Since Jay has been an OC or HC is rushing attack has never been ranked higher than 18th in the NFL. That is going by the standard total yard rankings by the NFL.

  • Rick Deez

    I think it’s a myth that Jay doesn’t commit to the run. They can’t run it. Rushing attempts are up this season. It could be as simple as we have pedestrian RB’s and TE’s and WR’s that don’t block. It could be scheme. I also heard that Moses’ stance tips run vs. pass. I dunno…

    • Flounder

      Or it’s a simple as his running scheme sucks and is very obvious.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      I’ll go with non-blocking sissy TEs for 1,200

      • Flounder

        I’ll go with we run 80% of the time on first down out of the same set.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          I’ll go with one cut RBs AND that.
          Most teams have some WRs that won’t block.
          All of the above, minus that.

    • Different_Cat

      In 2016 we were top 10 in yards per carry, but because we called so few runs, we were 21st in rushing yards. It’s Jay.

      • Flounder

        Yeah but 21st in total yards.

    • mike5790

      don’t forget practice. it takes practice to queue up a dynamic running game, and they prob spend much more time on a larger variety of passing plays. and if that’s the case, they should coach up Moses. tells would explain in part a poor divisional record

    • Big Buck64

      They got Vance Jospeh’s assistant to become assistant OL coach . Maybe that will help

  • Rick Deez

    Lennyfrigginleo
    ‏Lennyfrigginleo
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    Rather we draft a QB, get one in free agency or start McCoy. Watch out for Stephen Morris. He’s a dark horse that could compete for the #1 spot again this is a very underrated move that Redskins fans will soon appreciate. Very shock Bruce made a good move 😲 #HTTR #Redskins
    ___________________________________________________________
    Yeah, The Redskins scooped him up last week. I heard he’s bad but others say he could be in the mix…I dunno.

    • noonefromtampa

      outside of Romo name all the other UDFA starting All-Pro QBs in the last 10 years

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Potato?

  • Different_Cat

    Sheriff Joe’s running for U.S. Senate!

    • mike5790

      Does the Constitution explicitly state that government officers / representatives HAVE TO BE real people?

  • AustinSkin

    If you don’t live in the DMV where do you go to watch games, outside of DirecTV? In Austin, it’s the Black Sheep Lodge. Usually gets 50-80 diehards, even when the team is sucking:
    https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12552784_1108668009145386_2589978919063861090_n.jpg?oh=fd19ac37b3631e3e4443578f09b0722b&oe=5AF2FFAB

    • Back to the good ol daysBruce

      Boston has a dedicated skins bar called Clerys. Pretty dope. B&G decor on game days and avg about 25 folk

      • btg

        Where?

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          South End
          Dartmouth and Columbus Ave.

  • Back to the good ol daysBruce

    What was Jays best rushing year as Cincy OC? My guess he’s never been as committed to the run as he says in his presser. I recall they had BGE and Bernard, both very very good backs.

    • Flounder

      They were 18th, 19th and 18th in his 3 years.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    It reminds me of the footage of the Tsunami that hit Japan. Half ran for high ground, the other half got on the rooftops, refusing to abandon what they knew. The rooftops were soon overcome by the surge.

  • btg

    I’m not switching over
    Nope

    Wait……

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Class……… it’s a South Shore thing.

      • btg

        Haha
        Pahk ur cahr at the Braintree plazah

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Truthfully, it’s a very nice area. That wasn’t an insult.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      How are Noone’s updates going, over there?

      • Back to the good ol daysBruce

        Noone-existence

        Naww but seriously that middle school teach story is nuts

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Ikr, lol
          He’s got his own way of venting.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Do you think it’s a “status” thing, peep’s reluctance to switch from the Washington Post, to this younger, more talented quarterblog? I mean…………this rookie clearly has the advantage and upside, status be damned all to hell.

    • Flounder

      I think it’s stupid thing unless you want to post with a bunch of trolls and yourself.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Sure, but other people may have different perspectives.

        • Flounder

          I mean you can post on both sites and it’s not like it takes a degree to sign up to post here.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            This is not a lie, as I do not have a degree, but that’s obvious to most.

    • frediefritz

      noone said you can’t post on both sites

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        I know he did, a wise and powerful wizard he is.

    • Different_Cat

      They’re not going to have a choice after a while. They will close the comments on the last TI post and that’s all she wrote.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Dear John…………………I sent your saddle home.

  • noonefromtampa

    we need a true legit #1 RB

    is Jay going to commit to the run more even if Colt is starting?
    last season without all the injuries we avg 4.5 per carry tied for #7 best in the league
    so the run game was effective which is what is needed to support the passing attack

    • Different_Cat

      Unlikely, IMO. Even in 2016 when the run game was pretty efficient we were 21st in rushing yards. All the teams that had fewer yards were considerably less efficient.

    • mike5790

      “effective?”

      an effective running game picks up 3rd and 4th and 1 or 2

  • mike5790

    When do we find out that Steve is really Mike McCartney?

  • Flounder

    Damn 560 post in only a few hours great work guys and again thanks to Alex for setting this up so quickly.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      You owe him………….big time.

      • Flounder

        It was my idea.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          We’ve been here 22 hours and you’re already tryna take Alex’s mojo? ……..PARTY FOUL

          • Flounder

            LOL

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Just fucking around.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Oh, and……….show me where it is that you can prove this ridiculous proclamation, I demand it!

          • alex35332

            He did mention it. I’d had a comment section active on the site for a year but it was unused and after a while it deactivated and I didn’t notice. Now, that’s fixed.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            You Sir, are NOT helping!

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            That said, your humility outscores any points he may have for “mentioning” it. That’s my story, I will stick to it.

  • btg

    Daquan Jones

    • Bad Reputation

      And #38 right below Jones is Carlos Hyde. 27 years old and ready to break out with a decent line and QB play. Jones would be a good addition to our young Dline.

  • Bad Reputation

    Here is a list of the top 100 Free Agents for 2018.

    Walter Cherepinsky

    @walterfootball
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    Top 100 NFL Free Agent Rankings – http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2018all.php

  • King Kerry

    notwithstanding the QB situation, what’s realistic for the ‘Skins to obtain this offeason to pick up a couple wins? new LG, new DT, RB? don’t see fixing everything by next season unless draft/FA is spectacular.

    • Bad Reputation

      I think we need a true legit #1 RB, if we’re gonna go with Colt. Draft one or sign one. And always help along the D line.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      FA: WR
      Draft: DT, TE, RB

  • Bad Reputation

    ProFootballTalk

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    Giants complete interview with Steve Wilks
    ___________
    This guy interviewed to be our DC last year and now he’s getting head coaching interviews. Teams are desperate. Guess Mike Shannahan is done coaching. Haven’t heard nothing about him the last 2 years for vacancies.

  • Bad Reputation

    Packers and Seahawks trying to get Gus Bradley as DC.

    • Big Buck64

      Is he planning on leaving SD ?

  • btg

    Is Steve Thomas formerly 713?

    • alex35332

      Yes

      • btg

        Thanks

        Steve good to see you again
        Things are well I hope

    • Scamp

      Yes

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      I guess?

  • Scamp

    As much as I love the big wind down of my businesses in preparation for an eventual cross country move… I still have a little work to do… and I need to hit the gym. Later Hamsters!!!

  • King Kerry

    thanks for the new digs, the HogSty.

  • Steve Thomas

    I made significant progress on my 2010-2017 Redskins draft class analysis column over lunch today. It should be ready to go by tomorrow.

    • mike5790

      1. Not enough Heisman trophy QBs
      2. Too few 7’0″ WRs
      3. Severe shortage of fullbacks

      • alex35332

        Shmobert Fiffin the um IV’th

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Thank you, Mr. Steve.

    • Rick Deez

      good

  • King Kerry

    now?

    • btg

      Later

    • Bad Reputation

      Angel of Death

      • King Kerry

        monarch to the kingdom of the dead

  • btg

    I like my avatar

    • alex35332

      Served you well for 10 years, why change.

  • Big Buck64

    Had no idea our Rick was Richard Rodgers . Very good .

  • King Kerry

    test

    • Squinns

      Failed

    • frediefritz

      try something else

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Your head is very roundy

  • Bad Reputation

    Ian Rapoport

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    The #Giants interview with #Panthers DC Steve Wilks has concluded. What happens next will be telling: Does he get on the plane to AZ? ✈️

  • King Kerry

    now…how to get my avatar on here…gimme a minute…

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Buck is a fucking wizard!

    • frediefritz

      Austin made my avatar, but now I can’t find it.

      • Big Buck64

        Just keep clicking on shit . Eventually it will happen for you .

    • alex35332

      Click on your name to open up a profile page and you can get to it from there.

    • Big Buck64

      C’mon man . its simple .

    • mike5790

      I just went to my wapo account and saved my avatar (right click “save image as”) and then added it to my disqus profile

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Buck, if you’re on here, King Kerry needs IT help on TI

    • Squinns

      He’s on his way.

    • Big Buck64

      You mean he wants to be thoroughly confused and bewildered

    • DC-Dan

      Have you tried turning it off and on again?

      -Buck, IT specialist

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        ….if so…….and you’re not getting the desired results………throw laptop at wall.
        -Buck, IT specialist

    • Big Buck64

      He’ll need some tylenol cause his head will be pounding

  • Scamp

    Zig-Zag_BC Zig-Zag_BC • 15 minutes ago
    Not saying it wasn’t repurposed as a cocaine budget, but….

    ______________________

    I thought it was re purposed for PCP?

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      No, that was a re-veg

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      And PCP is very, very bad.

      • alex35332

        The building I work with is called PCP. Not thought through.

        • Scamp

          One of our maintenance crews actually maintains a large shopping center called Pacific Coast Plaza. We call it PCP for short

          • alex35332

            That’s what we got PCP is the initials, but that’s what everyone calls the building who works here.

      • Scamp

        But, like everything else, fun in moderation right?

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Kelly’s authority spans yesterday AND tomorrow

    Boxing rink

    Interweb jurisdiction

    • Kelly

      Someone needs to save civilization from decline! You’re very welcome.

      • Scamp

        Civilization is getting way too big for it’s britches…

        • Kelly

          I know, right? Civ 6 is more than I can handle. I still prefer 4.

          • Scamp

            Loved that game…

          • Kelly

            The guy I’m going to work for worked on the first Civilization with Sid Meier

          • Scamp

            Punch him in the nuts for me will you? I wasted far too much time playing those damn games.

          • alex35332

            Some would say you didn’t waste enough.

          • Scamp

            Who are they? Tell me their names!

          • alex35332

            One guy goes by Sid.

          • Kelly

            Haha no 😛

          • alex35332

            I was always more of a fan of Sid Meier’s Pirates than Civilization. When it comes to world conquest games my favorite was Empire Earth.

          • [-Ozzie-]

            lol

          • mike5790

            still haven’t moved on to 6 from 5 yet; and with kids, who has the time? maybe when they’re off to college I can sit down with Civ 12

  • kon, for now

    Buck’s been holding out on us. He’s got his own movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEz8Z_G8SBk

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      I got a Franklin, Buck shaves his beard to a goatee.

    • Big Buck64

      I tell you whats funny about that , Travoltras character looks like every lineman i ever knew , including myself . Some of us were in different skin tones but same guy . Good movie too

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        BOOM! I win

  • Bad Reputation

    It’s clear that with no Beep in like 6 days that something is going on over there. Bullock writing articles about Jon Gruden instead of something for TI. He should have taken that over, they missed the boat on that.

  • noonefromtampa

    so Alex, you should “break” the news on your site that evidently the Post appears to have withdrawn their support for their Redskins blog and maybe they are shifting coverage to a better team like the Ravens

    • noonefromtampa

      allegedly and all that

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Coup de grâce

    • alex35332

      I mean, I’m not gonna create a whole thing. I got bridges I’d like to not burn down.

      • Scamp

        Don’t worry… I’ll burn them for you

  • alex35332
    • Kelly

      I approve of your dramatic use of ellipses!

      • alex35332

        I do like a dramatic…….. pause
        I use ellipses because if I write
        a beat
        almost no one will get it. Because few others up here probably took screen writing in school.

        • Kelly

          It builds antici……..

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          It was affective…… like when you thought your ole’ lady was home from her business trip early……. affective.

          • Kelly

            effective*

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Yeah, see what I mean…….. turned me into flounder…… today.

          • Scamp

            I see The Hog Sty even hired a blog spelling/grammar cop. Sweet.

          • Kelly

            I like to help people learn things.

          • Scamp

            What do you mean by “people?”

          • Kelly

            What do YOU people mean “people”?

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            er…………. it’s peeps

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            It changed my mood……..so…………. there’s that.

        • Lbsand

          You and The Rooster. Don’t forget to say things twice, the 2nd time after the effect-pause.

  • Bad Reputation

    What The F*** Facts

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    “The Blues Brothers” had a budget for cocaine while filming.

    • Scamp

      Doesn’t everyone have a cocaine budget? Just me and the Blues Brothers huh…

      Did not know that…

      • Bad Reputation

        lols

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        My cocaine budget was confiscated….

        • Kelly

          So was Belushi

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Not saying it wasn’t repurposed as a cocaine budget, but….

  • noonefromtampa

    The problem with reporters is that with Twitter all the idiots can responded with
    1. their stupid lame ass ideas that have no grounding in reality
    2. hate and some people hate the Redskins and their beat reporters

    Keim and some of the others are tried of being bombarded with nonsense and it shows in their responses
    Keim also does not suffer fools lightly and has called out the new Post beat reporter already

    • Scamp

      Oooh… what did he say about the WaPo reporter?

    • alex35332

      There was a interview Gruden did way back early last off season, someone did a live video of it, and they were chatting.

      Gruden asked “should I get on twitter?”, every reporter was like, “God no! Don’t do it, you will just get destroyed.”

  • [-Ozzie-]

    Can I be an assistant to the assistant of the assistant head coach? I’ll gladly get them coffee.

    • Scamp

      You really wanna deal with BA and Little Danny?

      • alex35332

        Hey you get on Danny’s good side, it’s $400 steak dinners every night.

    • [-Ozzie-]

      It’s not that much different than my bosses now.

  • [-Ozzie-]

    No, Callahan just wanted someone to get him coffee.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Maybe his assistant head coach job is actually a thing.

  • Big Buck64

    https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/948977922487943169

    Doesn’t appear he is a low level staffer , who will be getting Jay’s coffee.. I don’t think it was me who was overeating,

    • Scamp

      So Callahan couldn’t handle the multiple line alignments by himself huh?

      • Kelly

        He’s getting paid to coach like nine guys, and he ended up managing like 200. Get him assistants and caffeine!

      • alex35332

        Most teams now have a primary position coach, an assistant, some will even have 2 assistants + 1 position coach for spots.

  • noonefromtampa

    FYI Keim was at Washington Examiner until they killed the sports beat
    then went to Post for a month and then over to ESPN when they expand online NFL coverage

    • Kelly

      What’s amazing is that he’s still there. ESPN has been going through some shit.

      • Scamp

        I see on Twitter he has become as sarcastic and jaded as the rest of the media types. Disappointing

        • Kelly

          Yeah… with viewers come sycophants. With sycophants comes the temptation to think you’re cooler than you are. Internet cool these days = bashing whoever/whatever and being as cynical and crass as possible.

          • Scamp

            Well, what I mean is that it’s disappointing on 2 fronts…

            1) How quickly people try to tear down folks that are just reporting info and
            2) How quick the media types skin becomes thin

          • Lbsand

            Some of the comments on some of his pieces are just awful, personal attacks. Comes with the territory I suppose.

          • alex35332

            the new girl for the post got burned out in about 2 months.

          • Scamp

            TI has no real direction anymore… just random crap thrown against a blog wall

    • Lbsand

      O yeah, that’s right, I remember now. Good refresher.

    • noonefromtampa

      Don’t think he was ever at Times that was Loverro

      • Lbsand

        Huh. I just remember posting somewhere, thought it was the Times but probably was CSN.

  • Bad Reputation

    Sign Le’Veon, Jimmy Graham, and Sammy Watkins. 3 #1s right there. Draft well on D….

  • Bad Reputation

    Cap has gone up an average of 10 million a year since 2011. It was 120 million then.

    • Flounder

      Yes and is projected to be around 178 this year.

  • Kelly

    Alex – any chance you can set things to allow more than 3/4 levels of nesting on replies? It’s making it hard to get a good blogfight going.

    • Scamp

      Fuck you (now you can just read the heading right above to see who that’s addressed to)

      • Kelly

        You make my life so easy :))

        • Scamp

          I’m here to help you folks

          • Kelly

            What do you mean “you folks”?

          • Scamp

            I’m really not sure… I mean, you people fucking baffle me

          • Kelly

            Now you replied to yourself and confused me.

    • alex35332

      I have it set at 5. I can go no farther captain the ship can’t take it.

      • Scamp

        You should make it get to the point where it’s so condensed that only one word fits on a line… 😉

  • Bad Reputation

    Here is the article again..it got covered up. It’s really informative. Crazy how the paradigm has shifted.

    https://www.theringer.com/2018/1/9/16867564/playoffs-salary-cap-free-agent-spending-jaguars-eagles-patriots

  • Bad Reputation

    It may sound simplistic, but the cap is rising at such a rate, and the carryover money is so great, that most teams can do anything they want within reason to their roster. “Any team who was bad with their salary cap in the past now has a get-out-of-jail-free card,” said Jason Fitzgerald, who runs Over the Cap, a salary cap website, and has consulted for NFL teams. Teams, Fitzgerald said, can use the excess cap money to easily get rid of mistakes they make in free agency and move on to other plans.

    “You go back to the spending sprees in the old CBAs—the Jets were pretty much dead by 2011 and entered a two-year period where they couldn’t do anything,” he said. “Dallas would always have years like that. The teams that spend now, you don’t see that. That’s changed a lot about the sport and the smart teams are being proactive about it.”

    • Scamp

      I’ve been saying this for a while… it’s why Flounders theory about Denver not being able to fit Kirk under the cap is laughable

      • Flounder

        They will have in the mid 20’s for cap space, take away around 5-10 of that for rookies and sign Kirk some how without doing anything else.

        • Lbsand

          Cap is going up, restructuring, a couple of cuts where the dead money isn’t bad. The usual.

          • Flounder

            This is with the cap projected at 178 that is a 14 mil increase from last year.

        • Scamp

          Everybody does “something else.” With creative structuring and the meteoric rise in the cap everyone can make something work. If you don;t believe that look at what the Cowshits did over the last few years.

          • Flounder

            It’s possible I guess if you want to strap your team but I doubt they do that considering they need a lot more than Kirk.

        • alex35332

          If they want to do it they can make Kirk a deal that pays him only 10 this year and back loads it for the next seasons.

          • Flounder

            Not really because his signing bonus needs to be spread out evenly overt the length of the contract.

  • Rick Deez

    The Redskins do NOT have a difference maker at any of the skill positions. I went to a Redskins game in 16′ and sat close to the field. The defense rolled triple coverage to DeSean Jackson…he was difference maker.

    • alex35332

      100% agree. As I’ve said, we’ve got a good 3rd down back and a #2 RB, we’ve got our 2-3-4 WR spots settled, and depth at TE, now we just need a No 1 RB, No 1 WR and No 1 TE to come along.

      • Kelly

        I would like to see a No 1 LG, No 1 C and No 1 RT come along before we start looking at skill positions on offense.

        • Scamp

          I think Roullier is a #1… or will be. For what it’s worth Cooley thinks so as well. I would bet you see Long at LG here real soon… we just spent a ton on Moses at RT… what we really need is a LT. Trent’s time is short…

          • Kelly

            I don’t think Moses is the answer. If Roullier is a legit starter, we got really lucky in the 6th round.

          • Scamp

            I actually think Moses is pretty good. I hate to use this as an excuse because it really isn’t… but 2 bad ankles this year is tough.

          • Kelly

            He definitely got better, but I would still like to see an investment there.

          • Scamp

            They invested pretty heavily in Moses

          • Kelly

            A better investment 😀

  • Bad Reputation

    From the article below:

    “I can distinctly remember the days when it was almost every year, you had to let people go because of money,” Los Angeles Rams general manager Les Snead said. “Nowadays, I don’t ever remember thinking, ‘Uh-oh, we’re up against the books here.’ Now, it’s more of a strategy. ‘If we keep this guy, what does it keep us from doing?’ It’s not, ‘Hey, we’ve gotta do some things just to get legal.’ I think that’s what has allowed you to make, let’s call it ‘strategic football decisions.’”

    One former general manager, who asked not to be named, told me that when he took over his team earlier this decade, he wanted to take a slower approach and build up cap space over time. The problem with the idea was that, unlike in previous eras, eventually everyone had cap space. This is the new reality; it helps explain all the new faces in the playoffs—and some of the old ones, too. The draft still matters, but for the first time, nailing free agency might be as important as acing your first-round pick.

    • Kelly

      When’s the last time before Goff that the Rams had a player worth paying?

    • btg

      Been saying that for a long time
      Cap can be manipulated

      • Lbsand

        Yes you have, and you convinced me too.

  • Bad Reputation
  • Kelly

    When I say that I’m more confident in Scot’s ability to draft than Bruce Allen’s, I’m not looking at a two-year span of work, I’m looking at what each guy has shown he’s capable of doing.

    • Flounder

      Well BA has never really been in charge of picking players and still doesn’t do that, he puts the guys in place that pick the players. Scot was never the final word on drafting except here for 2 years and with the 49ers for one year.

      • Kelly

        Can you please explain where you come up with this idea that you know who makes every decision in the FO?

        • Squinns

          Duh… Flounder!

        • Flounder

          I don;t know who makes every decision and neither do you but BA has never been a personnel guy and has said as much.

          • Kelly

            He was the GM for two teams, including ours. How is he not a personnel guy?

          • Flounder

            He is not the GM when Shanny was here he was the top dog not BA and Scot was the GM when he was here. In Tampa Jon Gruden had final say on personnel.

          • Scamp

            Really hard to read…

          • Squinns

            @Scamp, was think the same thing as the responses are not indented any further…..

          • Flounder

            Sorry scamp.

            Shannahan was in charge of personnel when he was here not BA, when BA was GM in Tampa Jon Gruden was in charge of personnel. Scot was GM here and apparently had final say I guess we don’t know that for sure but if BA had final say than things still were good since everyone was happy with Scots picks.

          • Scamp

            I’m not now nor was I ever sold on Scot… his free agent linemen were terrible. Some of his high draft picks… SMH. I think where Scot excelled was mid to late rounders.

          • Kelly

            I don’t think that Bruce Allen has ever been as hands-off on personnel decisions as Flounder thinks. Regardless, he’s what we have right now, so I hope it goes well.

          • Scamp

            He also said all decisions stop with him

          • Squinns

            He forgot to add “except the bad ones.”

          • Flounder

            Yes now they do

    • Squinns

      Scott drinks. Will get drunk in the NFL.

    • Lbsand

      Would have loved to see the squad after 5 yearsd under Scot. My sense was he had a plan and a vision. O well, I’m over it. And f-bruce.

      • Flounder

        Scot has never lasted 5 years with any team and didn’t have personnel say except for 2 years with the 49ers. He also was not very good in FA’s,.

  • Flounder

    Shanny’s drafts were terrible overall but they did produce a few very good players still with the team.

  • Bad Reputation
  • Flounder

    Actually the last 4 drafts have been pretty solid, of course like all drafts your never going to hit on all picks. Cravens is a disaster 2nd round fail if he doesn’t come back and play.

  • Squinns

    Seems like everyone’s more or less migrated over.

    Wonder if this will be permanent.

    • Flounder

      Why not it’s not like Wapo is updating there site anyway.

    • Bad Reputation

      The Great Exodus….movement of ja people

    • Scamp

      Software here is far superior

    • Kelly

      If THS shows that it can move us from article to article, I think this sticks.

    • Squinns

      I’m all for it. I just remember the last migration to CSN didn’t stick too long, but the software was inferior and not everyone moved.

      • Scamp

        That software was terrible and Keim moved out shortly thereafter

      • Lbsand

        Yeah. We dabbled on Keim’s posts at Wahington Times for a brief spell. He wasn’t there long and the software was funky.

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Great stuff over there, Noone! LMFAO

  • Scamp

    Bad Reputation • 10 minutes ago
    Didn’t know you guys were metalheads like me

    _____________________

    Then you haven’t been paying attention. I’m always talking metal

    • Bad Reputation

      That’s cool man. I am a super metal guy. Hard Classic Rock as well. Pretty good knowledge base. Hopefully get to see Priest here in DC come March. Never seen those guys. Seen Slayer, Pantera, Testament, Anthrax, Metallica, all the big boys multiple times. Listen to a lot of underground stuff too.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Not a fan of super metal, I do enjoy the fuck outta some trash metal, though…..

        • Bad Reputation

          lol

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            It’s fucking great to exercise a vulgar display of vocabulary.

          • mike5790

            Sincerely,

            Pantera

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Ooooooooooooooo! You rascal, you! Hahahaha! Mike is super sharp.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          I flounder’d that: THRASH

          • Lbsand

            I thought you were just being funny. And it was.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            It was a combo, joke/grammar error.

      • Scamp

        I grew up on Thrash. Saw The Big Four show in Cali here a few years ago… seen every Metallica tour since the first album (when I was 6) except for St. Anger because I was locked up. Met all the guys from Metallica… Anesthesia Pulling Teeth was the first song I learned to play… took me a year self taught. Favorite newer band is Killswitch Engage… they are about to tour with Anthrax and played with Exodux here last year. Good show… odd crowd

        • Bad Reputation

          Vio-lence, Nuclear Assault, DRI…so many awesome old school thrash bands…to many to name.

          • Scamp

            I still have the old battle vest. Have Nuclear Assault and DRI patches on it…

      • Kelly

        Never been big into 80s metal, but I dig the classic rock roots… Zeppelin, AC/DC, Sabbath, Van Halen, etc

  • Kelly

    Why doesn’t Lindsey Buckingham get more credit for his guitar work?

    • Bad Reputation

      The Chain

    • Lbsand

      Pales to other Mac guitarist. Peter Green, Bob Weston. Most Mac lovers never heard of either.

  • Bad Reputation
    • Kelly

      I felt a lot better about our drafts when Scot was here. I don’t know what weird committee system Bruce is dreaming up, but I don’t have confidence in his leading a team that can identify the right moves.

      • Flounder

        Really the two drafts that BA has run without Scot are better than the ones Scot ran.

        • Kelly

          I disagree

          • Flounder

            Well you can disagree all you want but look at the players and see who is contributing more.

          • Flounder

            Most of Scots free agents sucked.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            His Teams play improved.

          • Kelly

            I disagree there as well, and think you’re forgetting how many gaps there were that he needed to fill, but that has nothing to do with the draft, which is what I was talking about.

      • Flounder

        Scots second round pick freaked out and quit football, his future RB sucks and can’t get on the field, that’s a wasted 2nd and 3rd round pick.

  • noonefromtampa

    Panthers fire Mike Shula, Ken Dorsey

    • Big Buck64

      wow .

    • alex35332

      Mike Shula will never be his dad, needs to accept it. Maybe he should go to some small NCAA school as the head coach be the big fish in a small pond.

  • Bad Reputation

    Anybody see this?:

    Redskins
    Mike Klis reports that Phil Rauscher, who served as Broncos HC Vance Joseph‘s administrative assistant in 2017, is taking an offensive assistant position with the Redskins.

    • Scamp

      Yes

    • alex35332

      Had not seen that yet.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      That used to be beepable material…..

    • Big Buck64

      OK , wasn’t Denver atrocious offensively ? I”m missing something evidently

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        A competent QB?

    • alex35332

      All I’m seeing on twitter and in the news is that there’s rumors he’s gonna come take the job, if we get a press release about it I will re-post said release.
      FWIW Phil Rauscher is in his 2nd season as an NFL coach. Prior to that he was the OC some school I’ve never heard of: California Lutheran University and before that was an Assistant and TE coach at Hawai’i and Utah.

      • Bad Reputation

        Yeah nobody local has tweeted about it. But NFLTradeRumors is a trusted site.

        • alex35332

          I saw it also rumored via some Denver local news site.

      • Flounder

        I’m sure he will be game planning for Jay!!

        Classic overreaction by posters to a guy maybe taking small offensive assistant position that will probably be getting coffee.

  • alex35332

    Kelly • 30 minutes ago

    Middle
    of next month, I’m putting the wife & baby and both dogs in an RV and embarking on a 9 day one-way trip to Maryland 🙂

    Great to hear Kel! When you get settled let me know, we can go grab a beer

  • Big Buck64

    The Flyin’ Hawaiian = Russell Wilson .

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Obviously

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        ..

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      If that’s what IT advise is, Noone is better.

      • Big Buck64

        IT advice only on the WAPO . I can’t spread my expertise around but so much

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Right, limited supply?

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          🙂 mornin’ Buck

  • noonefromtampa

    in my 35+ years in IT
    I have never seen a person code their way out of a wet paper bag
    I have seen people coding who where in the bag from drinking to much at lunch

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      The bag is metaphorical.

      • Scamp

        I hate metaphorical bags

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Better than historical bags….

          • noonefromtampa

            better than being tea-bagged

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Aye!

    • alex35332

      Movies about hackers. “whoa look what he did”
      Real life…. he just hit ctrl – V

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    In other news, Noone is posting enough off topic on TI to give twit a stroke, and Walter called us inbreds.

  • HTTRsince65
  • Rick Deez

    Kelly • 19 minutes ago
    The Redskins failed to quickly put a Plan B together back in 2015, when Kirk’s agent made it clear that this would not be a standard contract negotiation. It’s now 2018, and there is still no sign of a Plan B. The Redskins put themselves in this situation by failing to show any ability to creatively solve problems.
    _____________________________________________________
    What should have been Plan B? Just get rid of Kirk? Actually, I think Plan B was to keep him from Kyle.

    • btg

      Kirk and his agent did not allow for a plan b

      • Kelly

        Neither Kirk nor his agent can stop the Redskins from bringing another QB into camp.

        • btg

          Again
          They were not going to negotiate

          • Kelly

            They’re going to negotiate with somebody. In the meantime, the Redskins are being used as patsies, and it’s happening again right now.

            Edit: My point is that the Redskins have ALLOWED themselves to be used by Kirk’s team.

          • Flounder

            Can’t negotiate with anyone but Kirk right now and since he isn’t going to negotiate they are stuck until FA’s starts.

    • noonefromtampa

      Plan A is Kirk
      Plan B is Colt
      Plan C is Dolt we draft

    • Kelly

      Plan B was to draft or acquire another option at QB. Here’s what I posted below:

      The only reason the Redskins were forced to franchise Kirk two years in a row and still have not resolved the situation is that they never identified a viable alternative to Kirk Cousins.

      I love Kirk as a QB. Think he’s great. But the MOMENT his agent made it clear that they were going to play hardball, the Redskins needed to find leverage in the form of another option at QB (both sides knew Colt wasn’t that option).

      If someone is going to hold you over a barrel, you need to be able to show that you can live without him if you want to negotiate.

      Case in point: Brian Orakpo. Orakpo wanted Prime OLB Sackmeister money, which is a LOT. The Redskins didn’t want to pay him like that, but they didn’t have any alternative. So they franchise tagged him – but they also spent a 2nd round pick on another pass-rushing OLB so that they weren’t in the same position the following season. When Orakpo left for the Titans, the Redskins weren’t screwed.

      When the Skins tagged Cousins, they just kept negotiating. Cousins’ camp knew from Day One that they were either going to get:

      A) a long term RICH deal with the Redskins
      B) the ability to play the FA market and get fat money from some other QB-needy team, or
      C) Franchise tagged again and get seriously paid

      Lots of win for one side, lots of lose for the other. The only way out of this for the Redskins is to get another QB.

      • mike5790

        while that might have worked, it might have made sure you pushed out Cousins; while now having to evaluated and develop another QB; taking resources away from building a team around Cousins that might make it more likely for him to stay; all while not quite being sure (yet) that Cousins was capable of putting together 3 seasons in a row like he did.

        prob gets back at the fact that there was a significant difference of opinion on Kirk in house?

        • Kelly

          You can’t build a team around a guy you can’t sign;
          You can’t sign a guy that you can’t negotiate with;
          You can’t negotiate with a guy who holds all the cards.

          Thus, building around Cousins hasn’t been an option.

        • Different_Cat

          I’m not buying this hypothesis. When have you ever seen an NFL team bring in a second potential starter at QB just to put pressure on the starter you already have?

          • Flounder

            Bingo

          • Scamp

            Well… Kansas City basically did just that this year…

            Cowboys did it to Romo

  • noonefromtampa

    DARPA is already hard at work on Skynet
    we have the computer side done already
    now they are working on the autonomous drones and robots

    • mike5790

      our gov’t is funding some really cool stuff

      how much of it will make it to production (or commercialization)? who knows. I’m waiting for the orange-picking robots that pick the perfect hybrid Florida greenhouse oranges (USDA is actually funding that)

    • Kelly

      “we”?

      • noonefromtampa

        Are you the Doctor?

        Terminate Terminate

    • kon, for now

      Waste of money.

      All they have to do is shut down video transmission. Then, the DoD can throw all the live bodies at a war that they want to. Just so long as no one sees an image of our dead.

  • Kelly

    Cool black hole link for the science nerds who will understand it (myself NOT included)

    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/1/8/16822272/black-hole-looks-like-what/

  • Scamp

    Flounder HTTRsince65 • 21 minutes ago
    Right so you negotiate which he didn’t do which means he had no intentions of signing no matter what the offer was.

    _______________________

    Because he knew he was going to get a boatload guaranteed for one year on the tag and then have the upper hand negotiating going forward. Seriously… how can you not understand this?

    • Flounder

      I understand it perfectly, that is not the issue the issue is people saying Kirk was mistreated or the offer was not good. I know exactly why he didn’t negotiate because he wants to be a FA and get the most money he can.

      • Flounder

        Kirk will enter FA’s unless we tag him there is no doubt about that.

        • mike5790

          he may still sign with the Skins when FA starts, but yes

          he is definitely not signing before the final cap is announced

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          We have a kicker…..

        • Different_Cat

          And I was just about to comment that Hogsty Flounder can spell.

  • Bad Reputation

    What The F*** Facts

    Verified account

    @WhatTheFFacts
    2m2 minutes ago
    More
    88% of Facebook users will “creep” ex-partners following a break-up.

    • Kelly

      Guilty

    • kon, for now

      Territorial instincts.

  • Kelly

    Middle of next month, I’m putting the wife & baby and both dogs in an RV and embarking on a 9 day one-way trip to Maryland 🙂

    • Different_Cat

      Come and listen to my story about a man named Kel
      A poor software engineer, barely kept his family fed,
      And then one day he was shootin at some food,
      And up through the ground come a bubblin crude.

      • Kelly

        bwahahahaha

        • Kelly

          I’m a producer, though. I know a little bit of python, but I can’t code my way out of a wet paper bag.

          • Different_Cat

            Yeah, well, that would screw up my meter. 🙂

          • Kelly

            word

          • Scamp

            Is there even a way to code your way out of a wet paper bag?

          • Kelly

            Only if there’s a way to code your way in, I expect

          • Scamp

            So… robots?

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            Badass shit kickin’ robots.

          • Scamp

            That have to be coded to operate

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            That “used to” have to be coded to operate – skynet

          • Kelly

            At the third or so level of replies, it starts getting hard to know who is responding to what.

    • Flounder

      Why? I already live there and your not missing anything.

      • Kelly

        I’m missing YOUUUUUU

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Safe travels!

  • kon, for now
    • Different_Cat

      LOL

  • noonefromtampa

    50% of Redskins Fans will be screaming for Bruce’s head and Snyder’s death once we do not sign Cousins

    the other 50% of Redskins fans will happy because we did not break the cap for Cousins but will then fault for the Front Office for not having a HOF backup to plug in the line-up

    so it’s a lose-lose for the team from a PR perspective

    • mike5790

      the real fail by a lot of fans would be no Cousins and no compensation for him

      • Kelly

        Which is the most likely scenario, unless you consider a 3rd round compensatory pick in 2019 compensation.

        • mike5790

          were they to tag him and then untag him do they lose the opportunity for that 3rd round comp pick?

          • Kelly

            No idea. The Redskins may be venturing into entirely new ground of fucktitude during this process.

          • Scamp

            The third round comp is not a slam dunk. We have to lose more FA then we gain to get a compensatory pick. There is no automatic comp pick for losing a tag

          • Kelly

            Yeah, not guaranteed, but I think that’s the best we could hope for.

    • Kelly

      I’d venture that over 50% of us are already calling for Bruce’s head, and some 95%+ have been waiting for the news that for some reason or other, Snyder was no longer the owner.

  • kon, for now

    With an eye on PR…sure, I make him the offer.

    But really, I don’t want him to sign. Too much fucking maintenance with that guy. Let him walk and become some other team’s problem.

  • Rick Deez

    There are also some that think the Redskins have not TRULY shown Kirk “the love”.

    • noonefromtampa

      I wish someone would love me for only $44M

  • Rick Deez

    The Redskins will be crucified either way this turns out. But that’s why they shouldn’t listen to fans. Kirk says he’s not going to negotiate until March. Free agency is in March. The draft is in April. Kirk can’t hold up the team like that. I don’t care how good he is. Skins should have a plan A, B, and C.

    • Flounder

      No team listens to fans.

    • mike5790

      March is when they can (or not) tag him, and March is when the final cap will be known, usually the cap drops the week or a few days before Free Agency.

    • Kelly

      The Redskins failed to quickly put a Plan B together back in 2015, when Kirk’s agent made it clear that this would not be a standard contract negotiation. It’s now 2018, and there is still no sign of a Plan B. The Redskins put themselves in this situation by failing to show any ability to creatively solve problems.

      • mike5790

        partly disagree. usually contract negotiations rely on psychological methods and prey upon people’s natural inclination to avoid risk and lock up a good deal for them without exploring other options, not unlike how most car salesman work. and for most people, they’ll sign. but Kirk always saw himself as a starter, and the problem started with The Trade. there are some problems you can’t solve if The Other has enough resolve.

        • Kelly

          The only reason the Redskins were forced to franchise Kirk two years in a row and still have not resolved the situation is that they never identified a viable alternative to Kirk Cousins.

          I love Kirk as a QB. Think he’s great. But the MOMENT his agent made it clear that they were going to play hardball, the Redskins needed to find leverage in the form of another option at QB (both sides knew Colt wasn’t that option).

          If someone is going to hold you over a barrel, you need to be able to show that you can live without him if you want to negotiate.

          Case in point: Brian Orakpo. Orakpo wanted Prime OLB Sackmeister money, which is a LOT. The Redskins didn’t want to pay him like that, but they didn’t have any alternative. So they franchise tagged him – but they also spent a 2nd round pick on another pass-rushing OLB so that they weren’t in the same position the following season. When Orakpo left for the Titans, the Redskins weren’t screwed.

          When the Skins tagged Cousins, they just kept negotiating. Cousins’ camp knew from Day One that they were either going to get:

          A) a long term RICH deal with the Redskins
          B) the ability to play the FA market and get fat money from some other QB-needy team, or
          C) Franchise tagged again and get seriously paid

          Lots of win for one side, lots of lose for the other. The only way out of this for the Redskins is to get another QB.

  • Flounder

    Kirk wants to be a FA period, that is why he has never actually negotiated with the Redskins on a long term deal and wont this off season. He has every right to want that also, but please stop with the Kirk has been mistreated and not offered a contract crap because it’s pathetic.

    • Rick Deez

      Agree

  • Different_Cat

    Kelly noonefromtampa • 22 minutes ago
    I’m 44. It’s already way more exhausting than my last kid, who was born when I was 33.
    ————–
    I can’t imagine. Neighbor of mine is about my age (mid 50s) and just had his first kid with his GF. Not on purpose. He’s doing the right things but he ain’t happy about it … at all.

    • Kelly

      Having a kid is an amazing experience. I bet he’s happier than he lets on 😛

  • Bad Reputation
    • Different_Cat

      Interesting. Anyone recall what he said about the Scherff pick?

      I didn’t get Tandler a couple years ago when he said that ILB wasn’t a big need for us.

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        Did we have OLinemen when he said that? C’mon man.

        • Different_Cat

          I believe we had Riley and Compton.

  • AustinSkin
    • AustinSkin

      Mohammed, Jugdish, Clayton and Sidney

  • Bad Reputation

    They will offer a contract in March, Kirk will turn it down, then I hope we do not tag him in any form or fashion and just move on. I think that’s whats best (if he doesn’t accept said offer). Just move the F on and let Jay have his last 3 years to develop a guy. If by the 3rd year we don’t have a winning season….BYE felicia.

    • alex35332

      I go a little more than that.
      Make an offer that’s fair (for discussion lets say it is 5 x 25) he will turn it down like you said. But in free agency keep negotiating, if someone like Denver offers him a crazy 30 million + offer, let him walk, if its 1 or 2 million more from where you’re at, try and match it.

      • Flounder

        We already made a fair offer and he didn’t respond.

        • HTTRsince65

          Fair to whom? An agents role is to get as much $ as possible for his client.

          • Flounder

            Right so you negotiate which he didn’t do which means he had no intentions of signing no matter what the offer was.

          • kon, for now

            Which has nothing to do with that it was a fair offer.

            He’s been over paid, by a shit-ton, two years running now.

        • alex35332

          Not this year.
          And the offer they made last season was a 2 year deal.

          • Flounder

            No the offer we made after last season was the most up front money in history years are irrelevant if anything less years means he could have signed another deal quicker. Up front money is all that matters to these guys.

          • mike5790

            Not sure about the contract offer in context, but Kirk/Agent info from sources says that he wanted a defacto 3 year or longer deal, not something that could easily be severed in 2; that might be from 2015, however

          • Flounder

            Yeah so you make a counter offer they never did, Kirk is the reason he is not signed nobody else. He wants to hit FA’s always has.

      • Bad Reputation

        OK fair. I think 15 % of cap is 25 or so mill and 16% is 27 million, so maybe in the middle 26.5

        • mike5790

          If you are the Skins and want to sign him, you’d prob need to have a Carr-like deal modified to the 2018 salary cap, knowing they’ll counter with at least a Stafford deal mod’ed to the 2018 salary cap.

      • Flounder

        John Elway is not that stupid and Denver couldn’t afford that contract anyway.

        • alex35332

          Trevor Siemian
          Brock Osweiler
          Sure he’s not that stupid?

          • alex35332

            Vance Joseph still employed too.

          • Flounder

            Yeah they don’t cost anything, he doesn’t have to cut half his team to afford them like he would kirk.

          • alex35332

            It’s been a big rumor that Denver is all in on trying to get Kirk if he is a FA.

          • Flounder

            It’s a fact that they don’t have the money to do so not without gutting there team.

          • mike5790

            they could do it, prob just with 2-3 contracts or 1 cut

    • mike5790

      they will probably tag him in an effort to sign him or trade him; by not doing so, you lose control of the situation. barring an embarrassingly large contract offer from the Skins, Mike McCartney wants unfettered Free Agency for Kirk, even IF Kirk stays here.

      • Kelly

        The team lost control of the situation in 2015.

  • [-Ozzie-]

    Jay is tired of the whole Cousins thing, and I think he is beginning to blame Cousins.

  • Rick Deez

    For all the flack Gruden takes for not having teams ready for the “big game”, you can say the same about Cousins.

  • alex35332
    • Kelly

      You know she’s the one who was making him smoke outside, tho. It was all a setup.

  • HTTRsince65

    KC is as blue collar a guy as Colt. He also wasn’t expected to do well, certainly not as well as he’s done. I think Jay is just tired of the situation, not Kirk.

    • Rick Deez

      Kirk is a very calculated and “cerebral” football player. He’s not a bad guy at all and a VERY good QB. He just seems to think too much.

      • HTTRsince65

        Agree he seems to try to be too perfect, avoiding the INT at all costs. It’s not necessarily bad, but take a chance every now and then.

  • Rick Deez

    The point of my piece, and after hearing Cooley on 980, Kirk and Jay are total opposites. That doesn’t mean they can’t work together, but Kirk just isn’t “HIS” guy or his type of QB. The average fan doesn’t know what Kirk does in relation to what Jay expects. Kirk may have 4,000 yards passing, but how many times has he hit the WR he was supposed to?

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      IMO, our first glimpse of this was the Jay/Kirk thing earlier this year. Nice article, Rick.

      • kon, for now

        Aye. Jay came out pretty damn strong on Cousins wussing out on passes into anything that wasn’t a window you could drive a bus through.

        • HTTRsince65

          That’s a function of his being thrown into the starting role and throwing too many INT’s imo.

      • Rick Deez

        Yes…Jay talked about Kirk “needing everything to be perfect”. Kirk talked about following his “process”

      • Rick Deez

        Thank you.

    • alex35332

      You could also say that maybe having them be opposites is why they are successful, they are canceling out each others weaknesses rather than accelerating them.

    • mike5790

      Jay is going to love Tanner Lee. Can’t run, and danged sure can gun sling it.

      …I think he had 5 pick-sixes last year… gun… slinger…

    • Kelly

      It kinda reads like you’re making the case that what Jay is looking for is a QB that nobody thinks is any good.

      EDIT: Also, good writeup 🙂

  • noonefromtampa

    Sure babies are cute

    but do the understand the route tree, over/under fronts, coverages and personnel groups

    I don’t think so

    • kon, for now

      Until they can take the garbage out, they’re mostly useless. And damn expensive to maintain.

    • Kelly

      She’ll have the basics down once she has a decent grasp of English.

      • noonefromtampa

        it’s amazing humans survived to evolve considering how vulnerable our young are for so long

        • kon, for now

          Evolution made us one horny as fuck bi-ped though. It compensated for all that vulnerability.

          • alex35332

            ^ Even in that regard Kon, we take a very long time to develop in the womb, rarely have “litters” like most species do. But there’s an argument to be made that one reason we advanced technologically is that we needed to protect our young.

        • mike5790

          in a previous world, women took care of the young together, often the young were strapped to a woman, and the men protected the tribe/clan/camp. many think that this kind of separation of duties, specialization is what allowed the more advanced primates and humanoids, specifically as example the H.S. to “evolve” primacy over the other contenders, including the Neanderthals.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            That’s amazing

      • alex35332

        Hey by the time she’s 18 – 19 years old the NFL will probably allow woman Kickers.
        Just remember when she’s 18-19 years old to keep her away from NPI.

        • noonefromtampa

          he’ll be about 78 then
          he’ll be out of breath after about 15 feet of chasing her

          • Kelly

            I’m 44. It’s already way more exhausting than my last kid, who was born when I was 33.

  • Kelly

    My daughter has had the hiccups for about 10 minutes. She’s nine days old, so that’s a pretty significant percentage of her life.

    • Flounder

      Wait until she has the shits for a few days in a row.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Master the burp, you must – Yoda

    • alex35332

      .8% of her life…

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Formula?

      • Kelly

        Titty

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          Good, master the burp, you must – Yoda

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Try a slight upward movement just as you Pat her back. Not to much or she’ll spit up. Just a touch.

      • Kelly

        We’re good to go. This is my fourth spawn, I have trophies for this shit.

        • Zig-Zag_BC

          I heard that.

    • kon, for now
  • Bad Reputation

    Anybody catch the latest Chappelle on Netflix…the last one from DC? Watched it last night. Pretty funny.

    • kon, for now

      Stand up comedy. The way it’s supposed to be. Without fear of the god damn PC police.

      • Kelly

        Seems to me most comedians take pride in being non-PC

        • alex35332

          There is a street cred factor in comedy that is important and lets some folks in comedy get away with being not-PC. How one gets such credibility I can’t exactly say, but the way I’ve always thought about it, you can get away with poking a 2000 lb bear, but you can’t get away stepping on an ant.

        • kon, for now

          Not anymore. Social media has made most of them a bunch of pussies. Or, they came into comedy already conditioned on being sensitive instead of controversial.

    • Kelly

      Was watching it with my wife last night, but she started falling asleep, so it’s paused. Pretty hilarious so far, though.

      • Bad Reputation

        Oh man…Stove Top Stuffing LOL

        • Kelly

          I was still washing my hands when one of his moms knocked on the door

      • alex35332

        You got to take the sleep where you guys can get it. So good move.

    • mike5790

      it’s also um, probably pirated, but it’s also on youtube

  • alex35332

    Off topic. But this isn’t good news for the DC area.

    http://wjla.com/news/local/discovery-communications-to-move-out-of-silver-spring
    That is a lot of good paying jobs leaving the DMV, as Discovery closes their HQ over therein Silver Spring.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Sue…that happened down this way with a Chinese company.

    • mike5790

      leaving the DMV, or just moving from Silver Spring?

      • alex35332

        No announcement of where their new HQ will be.

        • kon, for now

          New York

      • kon, for now

        Discovery Communications will move its global headquarters to New York City, CEO David Zaslav said.

        https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Discovery-Channel-Headquarters-to-Leave-Silver-Spring-468460623.html

        • mike5790

          Sounds like a solid plan to save money. I mean, when you think NYC, you think cheap sq footage and labor.

          • kon, for now

            Prolly some good savings to be had in series production expenses though.

          • mike5790

            NYC does have a lot of wildlife right there, in the open, to film.

          • Scamp

            …and taxes

  • Kelly

    Get your vote in on the new THS staff replacement poll on Twitter (which should show up on the right side of your screen). Anyone who chooses anything other than “New ST coach” is uninvited from my birthday party.

    • kon, for now

      I vote ST in spirit.

      I don’t twitter.

  • Different_Cat

    Jets guys are debating whether they should sign Kirk or draft Mayfield. lol

    https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/950758658283114496

  • Back to the good ol daysBruce

    Is Saban, Coach K and Bellichik the all time greats in their respective sport?

    • Kelly

      Hard to put anybody ahead of Lombardi

      • Flounder

        Saban for sure

    • mike5790

      Bellichick also has the rings with the Giants

  • Back to the good ol daysBruce

    I think we’ll definitely miss Kirk’s durability *knock on wood*. Dude took some shots this year and kept going. To me that’s worth ALOT if you take a look around the league

    • Bad Reputation

      Sleeps in a hyper-barrack chamber (not sure if that’s the right spelling) and has some crazy diet dedicated to his blood type.

      • mike5790

        but not with Michelle (like me)

        -Obama

      • Kelly

        That’s not the right spelling, but it is my new favorite spelling 🙂

      • AustinSkin

        hyperbaric

      • kon, for now
    • frediefritz

      Yes, that’s very true. Colt is mobile, but he would not hold up for 16 games. At a minimum, he would miss stretches of several games. We would have to have a legitimate backup…either a good FA or a high QB draft pick.

      • Bad Reputation

        McCown held up OK with the Jets. He’d be cheap and could win a game if asked to.

      • Flounder

        He would and you know this how?

        • Kelly

          Flounder is a longtime defender of the principle of not making assertions without concrete evidence to back them up.

          • Zig-Zag_BC

            The sarcasm font works beautifully here.

          • Flounder

            I don’t think anyone can say Colt wont finish the season he has just as much chance to finish the season healthy as any other QB.

          • Scamp

            You don’t think past history is a good indicator?

          • Kelly

            Yeah, I agree with that.

  • Bad Reputation

    Honestly…..there are so many places to get Redskins news…between 106.7, CSN Mid Atlantic, etc etc….but all their comments blog software sucks. If you guys just focus on that with an occasional article (no real way to keep up with those guys cause you guys don’t get paid)…that would super cool. Commenting and talking shit is the most fun anyways. Bouncing your particular ideas and venting about the team with people who actually give a shit is what we all want to do.

    • Kelly

      What I like about the THS guys is that they understand that the community comes first, because they came from the community. I’m sure if we ask nicely, we can also get them to beep us over when they put something new up.

      I’d ask peeps to remember that they are a small group of unpaid guys who are doing this out of a passion for the Redskins and the Redskins fans, so it’d be unrealistic to expect them to put in the same amount of time that a paying gig would warrant.

      • Bad Reputation

        Right. Amazing how much better this comments section is than a juggernaut like the post. Mind Bottling.

        • Scamp

          Well, this is word press… it is a professional blogging platform. WaPo is junk

          • alex35332

            Word press and Disqus are free but I understand why a big org like the post won’t use them, they don’t get the control of collecting everyone emails and stuff using those products.

        • kon, for now

          ftr….WaPo could switch to Disqus. They just won’t is all.

      • Scamp

        They are beeping… here it’s Oink Oink and then the link is right above the comments section. Way easier

        • Kelly

          Nice 😀

    • Flounder

      The post never has real Redskins news anyway.

      • alex35332

        They did back in the day, I always will stand by my opinion that Jason LaCanfora was one of the best beat reporters I’ve ever seen for the skins.

        He understood that fans want to hear from the 53rd man on the roster, was talking to LorAx back when everyone was ignoring him. Giving us info on Colt Brennan & all those guys.

        • Scamp

          Amazing what the One Man Gang has become

          • alex35332

            Can’t help but be a bit jealous about it. At the same time, super happy for him, he is a class act of a player.

        • Flounder

          Yeah back in the day, but they just get there news from twitter now or make up stuff.

        • Bad Reputation

          I like JLC. As a journalist.. Not a BMore homer. Can’t stand that.

  • AustinSkin

    I know that Jay doesn’t believe in the FB position, but Niles Paul certainly wasn’t the answer. Wish we could have found a roster spot for this guy. I believe he could have made a big difference in the running game and in pass protection:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXmQJoDPxs0

    • etrod

      Rob Kelly could play fullback

      • alex35332

        He would need to add 30 lbs ideally.

        • etrod

          Fat Rob was too skinny anyway

    • mike5790

      What’s wrong with having a Darrell Young type guy on the roster, can play ST, block, and catch a couple of passes out of the backfield? You can get a guy like that mid to late draft. If you’ve got coaching that can’t adapt their offense, then you might have the wrong coach.

      • alex35332

        Nothing wrong with it at all, anyone who says there is is wrong.

    • Kelly

      Mike Sellers was underappreciated.

      • etrod

        Good blocker and receiver but terrible short yardage rummer

      • AustinSkin

        Centers, too

      • alex35332

        Loved me some Mike Sellers.

        Dude was a monster not just in the run game but in ST units too.

        • Kelly

          Yeah he was. Him and LorAx were two of my favorite Skins during a terrible era.

    • Scamp

      With you there

      • AustinSkin

        He’s Brandon Scherff at FB

  • Bad Reputation

    Yeah injuries def dumbed down the run game. I’d hope to see this team with just the normal amount of injuries not 21 IRs with 11 or so starters.

  • kon, for now

    Moe will come around. He’s the guy that went from ‘I don’t need Sunday Ticket. I’ve got better things to do’ to, ‘Hey my man, you got that link to the game so I can watch it?’

  • Kelly

    89 comments? OMG when is THS putting up another post?

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Now my cup runneth over (cup runneth over)
      Life is so sweet (life is so sweet)
      All I could hope for to make it complete
      Down lifes silvery pathway He’s walkin’ with me
      My cup runneth over, no sorrow I’ll see

    • Bad Reputation

      1 a day would be more than fine.

    • Steve Thomas

      Our goal for the offseasons has always been something new, whether column or a show, every day Monday through Friday. Can’t promise that we can do it, we try. We do have this week mapped out.

      • Kelly

        I’m teasing ya, bud 😉

  • Steve Thomas

    Rich has a point with this, by the way – Jay needs “his guy” at QB. All great teams have that kind of relationship. If it isn’t Cousins, then who? Jay clearly wants to know.

    • Flounder

      Jay will have a major say in who.

  • Bad Reputation

    I think Colt would do OK. I worry tho that Kirk got sacked 40 something times and he actually has some escapability. Colt has none. He’d probably take 50 sacks and get hurt….then we’d see whoever the backup is in week 3.

    • Flounder

      Colt uses his legs way better than Kirk does and Kirk was guilty of holding the ball to long.

      • Scamp

        Way better?

        No

  • Bad Reputation

    mista moe
    10:29 AM EST
    I wish Steve and Alex all the best, btw…..they put in work.

    • Flounder

      Let him stay over there if he is so butt hurt.

      • Bad Reputation

        lol

    • Kelly

      Don’t forget Sean

      • Zig-Zag_BC

        AKA, THE Disco Robot.

  • Flounder

    You don’t have to have a complicated run game to have creativity. Just change up sets and formations. The Gibbs Redskins ran the same run out of 10 different formations and player groupings.

    • Kelly

      The thing is, when you are pulling guys in from other practice squads and off the streets, you have to dumb your playbook down in order to teach it to them QUICKLY, because this guy you just met is now your starter. He also has to learn all your passing plays. I’m sure there would have been more variety had there been more consistency on the roster.

      • Flounder

        That would excuse this year not all the other years Jay has coached a bad run game.

        • Kelly

          Excuse, not accuse, but I agree with you.

  • Flounder

    Moe over on the wapo crying he still wont come over said he will quit blogging if the wapo is dead.

    • Bad Reputation

      I saw that. Makes no sense. All of the people’s who’s opinion I care about have moved here. So that’s that.

      • Kelly

        The big question is will peeps stay here when WaPo puts up another article?

        • Flounder

          I will

          • Flounder

            If they put up another article.

        • Bad Reputation

          I’m all in here. I might read the article….but I’ll talk Skins here.

  • AustinSkin

    Just mentioned this site to the Auskins Redskins fan club. It’s a pretty safe bet that there will be several new members.

  • kon, for now

    Colt’s game 3 preseason performance against the Bengals ought to have quieted this stuff about arm strength being an issue.

    And though his arm is not the cannon that Kurt has, it has a touch pass that Cousins is forever having trouble with. That guy is unable to ease off on the velocity and ends ups delivering a pass the receiver has trouble catching.

    • Kelly

      Love Colt, wouldn’t be upset if he filled in as the starter while we tried to figure out a real solution, but let’s not confuse him with a real solution.

      • kon, for now

        Hey Kelly. Welcome!

        • Kelly

          Thanks 😀

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    Can we just run the ball till Punchy declares in 2/3 years?

  • Bad Reputation

    Or if we run on first down do it with a 4 wr set….so it looks like a pass and do a delay or a draw. Not 50 gut on 1st down.

    • Flounder

      Like I said we run out of the same sets all the time, our run game has no creativity.

      • Bad Reputation

        Even the jet sweeps to Crowder really didn’t work. I like that play but for some reason we have no success with it.

      • Kelly

        You try teaching 26 combinations of offensive linemen a deep playbook.

      • mike5790

        that is not surprising. McVay really didn’t have much running-game background either

  • btg

    He resented rgs inability to know and learn the play book

  • Bad Reputation

    Jay also needs to mix it up more on 1st down. Running like 65% of the time on 1st down is dumb. Way too many 2nd and 9-10-11s. That puts you in a bad hole for the possession.

    • Flounder

      Yes we are to predictable.

  • Flounder

    I think we need to get a deal done or move on I’m with Jay.

  • mike5790

    Through the first 3 out of 4 games (preseason prep mulligan Game 1) this team played like a contender. Then, the injuries. So, while still needing (or re-signing, Brown for example) play-makers, this is not a total rebuild of a team anymore.

    • Bad Reputation

      I agree, we have talent. Gotta keep Brown and Foster, and get another stud on DL and a legit RB to take pressure off of the new QB.

  • Bad Reputation

    If we go the Colt route…then we need to spend some of that 30 million on some defensive FA’s, and really get that run game going. Colt can play the conservative game manager role, but he isn’t gonna hit 4K passing. He’d do maybe 3300-3600 and we’d need to get about 1800-2000 rushing. We only had 1400 rushing with 4000 passing this year.

    • noonefromtampa

      Draft DL, ILB
      resign Brown, Foster

      • Bad Reputation

        Agree what about RB

        • noonefromtampa

          Make sure we get a good LG
          RB is not a huge need in Jay’s offense

          • Scamp

            I disagree… it IS a huge need. Look what happened after Chris Thompson went down

      • mike5790

        yeah. I think you can set up under the 90-man a possible battle between Compton (should he sign another vet min type deal) and Vigil for that final spot if you go ILB early to mid draft pick.

    • Flounder

      Passing for 4,000 doesn’t mean wins.

      • Bad Reputation

        No but its a the distribution of yards. We need to make up the 400 or so yards Colt won’t pass for.

        • Bad Reputation

          Shoot maybe 700 or so

        • Flounder

          No we need to score TD’s something Kirk struggles with.

    • Bad Reputation

      Offenses get between 5 and 6 thousand yards in a season we were 4000 pass 1400 or so running. It would be like 3300 passing and 1800 running with Colt.

      • Flounder

        Yards are irrelevant scoring in the redzone is what matters. We leave far to many many points on the field.

        • Scamp

          You have to get yards to get to the red zone…

          • Flounder

            True but we don’t need a 4,000 yard passer.

          • Scamp

            To win in Jay’s offense we do… we aren’t going to get to the redzone on running or special teams

        • Bad Reputation

          True..just talking averages tho. I know we need more points.

  • alex35332

    Kirk- Average Arm Strength. Good accuracy thanks to his awareness and conservative play.
    Colt- Below average arm strength. And he doesn’t have that awareness Kirk does I don’t think, he’s not a dumb QB who think he can win with his arm like we’ve seen all too often. But how does anyone see him as an
    option for 16 games I don’t know.

    • noonefromtampa

      if the coaches think that, then they better bring in Keenum or Smith
      but from the money they pay Colt, I think Jay is going to try and go with him

    • mike5790

      he’d prob have to run the ball more. I’m not thinking like Cam, but you know, if it’s there, you take the six yards and a first down to keep the drive moving.

  • noonefromtampa

    secret Zuma satellite total loss after failing to orbit after Sunday’s SpaceX launch

    • Lbsand

      That’d do it…

    • mike5790

      …that’s just what they want you to believe…

  • noonefromtampa

    over 1,000 comment in a day
    not too shabby

  • Scamp

    Oh… and Fuck Georgia

    • mike5790

      she on your mind?

  • Back to the good ol daysBruce

    I don’t get the same feeling from Jay that he prefers to move on to a new QB. He gets it’s a business, skins gambled and lost. But he’s hoping that Kirk resigns and they can build something. He laid it on the line for Kirk going into 2015 season. I think he wants that to play out.

    Not buying the Colt hype at all. Quality backup but if he actually has to start Jay will be fired because it’ll once agin be a 4-7 win season IMO

  • Scamp

    While I agree that Jay, and most likely EVERYONE, is tired of the QB drama that Bruce has created, I disagree we ever had TWO QB’s. The next part of this is what do we spend on a new QB and what guarantee do we have he’ll be better? Free agent QB? Then most likely he won’t be any better and he’ll have to learn the system. Not to mention he’ll have no run game to help the transition. If we go rookie then what round? We need so many pieces that I’m not sure I would want to spend a first rounder on a QB. And again… no run game to help that transition.

    While the gist of the piece is obvious… we’re all tired of the Kirk contract drama… the solution is not an easy one.

    • AustinSkin

      I’m going to have to trust that Jay knows how to work with QBs and develop them quickly. If he gets his guy, I think we will be pleasantly surprised.

      I’m not down on Kirk, but if he gets a nice offer from Denver or another team that has potential, I think he’s gone.

      • Scamp

        Certainly a good bet… but the grass isn’t always greener. Denver has been burning through QB’s… not sure that situation is a better one. People think because of their defense they are ready made… and maybe they are. But we all know that things aren’t always as peachy as they seem in other situations.

        The first part… Jay has developed 2 QB’s… Kirk and The Red Raider… both are controversial in their home towns. Jay probably deserves some of the blame for that

      • AustinSkin

        That said, if Kirk surveys the landscape of opportunities, and he doesn’t see a match with suitors interested in him, then I could see him buckling down and signing a LTD.

        • Scamp

          Either way Jay definitely DESERVES some QB stability for the last 3 years of his deal. There’s zero guarantee that even if he gets to draft and groom his guy that it will happen.

    • mike5790

      The run game is definitely an issue. Is that a personnel issue, or a practice/scheme issue?

      • Scamp

        Probably a bit of both. There is no magic fix.

  • noonefromtampa

    Kirk is worth 4 more wins than Colt…

    based on what?
    4th Quarter comeback wins?
    pressure wins with playoffs on the line?

    Jay’s offense doesn’t need Tom Brady to win games
    people are open on almost every pass play
    The QB just needs to know where to throw and be able to get it there

    Colt can do that, but can he stay healthy…

    • kon, for now

      More accurate. More decisive. More confident.

      But that durability issue…

    • Different_Cat

      I don’t think we had so many guys running around open this year. Years past, yes.

    • Back to the good ol daysBruce

      Jay needs WR that can get open as well. Looking at the ALL22 they sucked. Even Ryan Grant had bad routes. Wasn’t all on the QB and jays offense isn’t perfect

  • Different_Cat
    • kon, for now

      Ehh. I didn’t see him back on the field.

      Letting him back out there…making a play or not, is rewarding bad behavior.

      • Scamp

        He Chris Hanburgered that kid on the kickoff well after his “incident.”

        • kon, for now

          I actually missed that play. Just saw it on review.

  • kon, for now

    TI doesn’t even care that HS is actively poaching hamsters.

    • mike5790

      they prob paid Alex to do it. now they’ll have the metrics in a few months to shut ‘er down and drop headcount

      • alex35332

        If I were smarter I would have gone that rout and got paid… But I’ve not heard a peep from anyone at the Post, even though I talk with Cindy from time to time.

  • mike5790

    I’m assuming the rule as before, there’s no expectation that we read the article or stay on topic?

    • Lbsand

      Well yeah!

    • kon, for now

      Topic cops will be dismantled on sight

  • kon, for now

    0 argument.

    Good piece Rick.

    • Zig-Zag_BC

      Yeah

    • Rick Deez

      Thanks K0n

  • Zig-Zag_BC

    I’m a gunslinger alright, got me a .32 snub-nose in my watch pocket. – Colt

  • Different_Cat

    Yep, I think Jay once viewed KC as that underdog, but KC has killed that feeling with his annual “show me the love” tour.

  • AustinSkin

    Nice write-up

    I think Jay WANTS to move on from Kirk and to get his guy.

  • Scamp

    Sure… let’s get Jay a new QB… that’ll solve all the problems. Just like it has over the last 2 decades